On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 01:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 17:59 -0400, Paulo Cesar G. Costa wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 22:35 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 13:10 -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 21:59 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 12:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
> > > > > > Too bad there isn't a statically-linked version.
> > > > >
> > > > > The future is rather stuff like Flatpak / Snap / etc.
> > > >
> > > > The buzz words are kind of a mystery. Are there more details
> > > > about
> > > > how to install using these?
> > > >
> > > Be careful about using things like flatpack - they work, but by
> > > their
> > > nature they run in a "sandbox" isolated from the system. It's
> > > fairly
> > > new technology (at least for Evolution) and things are getting
> > > better,
> > > but sometimes you come across things, especially in interactions
> > > with
> > > the host system, that just don't quite work as you expect.
> > >
> > > This is not meant to put you off, it is good to try these things.
> > > But
> > > you should be aware that it isn't a total solution yet. There will
> > > no
> > > doubt be many people who now jump in and say it works fine for
> > > them
> > > ("all you need to do is ....").
> > >
> > > P.
> >
> > I second that. Sandboxing might be a good fit for a number of
> > applications but not for those that inherently require a higher
> > level of
> > interaction with the file system. These usually take a usability hit
> > when operating in a sandbox. In my experience, in order to get
> > attachments in the place I want, import things, attach files, point
> > to
> > dot files I have, etc., required me to write so many exceptions to
> > the
> > sandboxing policy that I simply quit using it.
> > Maybe in the future...
>
> I think the problem is not so much access to the filesystem, which
> generally is just the host's own filesystem, but access to the rest of
> the Desktop Environment. Evolution in particular is integrated with
> the
> Gnome system and expects to be able to communicate with other GTK-
> based
> components which will often not be accessible from within the sandbox.
>
> poc
>
Thanks, Patrick, you conveyed what I was trying to say in a much more
precise way. I kept tweaking the sandbox permissions in an attempt to
regain that integration, up to a point that it became a nuisance to me.
Paulo
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