Hi Daryl 

Just spotted your post on 1/6/3. I�m the author of JiCal and have just
discovered (having upgraded Evolution from 1.0.8 to 1.2.2 that it�s
free/busy functionality has broken. I haven�t changed any code so either
Evo is broken or they�ve tightened/changed requirements outside of the
spec.

I�ll ensure that FBURL processing works as soon as I can detect what in
Evo has changed.

BTW. A Dutch Sys Integration firm recently funded an extension to do
work group calendaring. It�s Week-at-a-glance HTML views of particular
groups of users. A single XML file can be used to define each group and
the views can be forward planned . Works well and really tested the
Repeat Rules thoroughly. 

I�m currently docbooking JiCal so should be done this week sometime and
release under 1.3.4.

A question or two for the list. I�m designing a Calendar Access Protocol
server under the JiCal banner. Does anyone know how hard it will be to
plug in a �CAP� (http://www.calsch.org) Client to Evo? I�ve already had
talks with a German OS project who think the Outlook plugin is not so
bad. Wouldn�t it be nice to have a true open source calendar server and
a migration path from Outlook to Evolution as and when departments are
ready? I think Lotus Notes are moving to get CAP client/server working
for their offering (as main chatter on the calsch list is from there).

Best regards

Stuart Guthrie


On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 04:09, Daryl Manning wrote:
> Did anyone try jiCal for what this guy is trying ? It doesn't even 
> require you to use JBoss anymore, you can just set a cron job every 
> couple of minutes to go through the directories and pick up changed 
> information.
> 
> We were planning on trying this here where I am.
> 
> Be interested if anyone has crib notes on this or similar.
> 
> Goal is to get Evolution, Outlook and Apple iCal all working together 
> for appointment bookings and such with FBURL and calendaring for each 
> user in the org though it would be nice if we could have any iCal/iMips 
> compatible client working with it.
> 
> ciao !
> Daryl.
> 
> 
> On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 09:56  PM, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> 
> > I've commented on each point below.  General comment: points 1 and 3 do
> > not require a "calendar server"... just a host for free/busy, and the
> > meetings are accepted into the local Evolution/Outlook calendar.
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 11:54, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> >>    From inside of outlook:
> >>    1) From inside of outlook. Create a
> >>       meeting by selecting a list of attendees
> >>       and having the tool (outlook) display
> >>       the available times.
> >
> > Set up an internal ftp or http server that accepts uploads (either
> > authenticated, or anonymous).  Set each Outlook user to publish their
> > free/busy time to this server (need to install the "Web Publishing
> > Wizard" for this), into some file (if using unique usernames, something
> > like this) -
> >  ftp://server/calendars/username.vfb
> >
> > Place that information into the contact information, either local
> > contacts (Evolution and Outlook), global free/busy location settings 
> > (in
> > Outlook), or into the contact LDAP server (if you have one - for
> > Evolution and Outlook).
> >
> > Then, when scheduling a meeting the free/busy info is retrieved and
> > displayed in the meeting scheduler dialog.
> >
> > NOTE: Evolution currently does not have the ability to publish 
> > free/busy
> > to a server, but it can email the information (Actions->Publish
> > Free/Busy).  If you set up a special account on that free/busy server 
> > to
> > receive these emails, and use procmail or some other filter to pull out
> > the information and save it into the correct directory into
> > username.vfb, then Evolution calendars will be visible.  However,
> > Evolution users will have to remember to publish the free/busy 
> > manually,
> > unlike Outlook which would do it automatically.
> >
> > NOTE2: this does not give calendar capabilities to users not using
> > Evolution or Outlook.
> >
> > NOTE3: this does not give the ability to actually view someone's
> > calendar (to see what meeting they're in), just the times that are
> > already scheduled.  Others have posted tools that allow web viewing of
> > the Evolution calendar file (since it is ical formatted), but this
> > requires manually uploading the calendar, and I don't know of a way to
> > do this from Outlook.
> >
> >>    2) Be able to designate a proxy for a person,
> >>       that person should get a copy of all meeting
> >>       requests and be able to respond as the person
> >>       requested for the meeting.
> >
> > Don't know of anyway to do this outside of Exchange.
> >
> >
> >>    3) And of course sync up with the individuals
> >>       outlook/Evolution calendar when they get
> >>       back online. e.g. You can make appointments
> >>       without the individual actually being online
> >>       at the time of the appointment.
> >
> > Using the method shown in response to point 1, they will "sync up" by
> > receiving emailed meeting requests, and accepting - or declining - 
> > them;
> > since the actual calendar is stored locally.
> >
> > So, while not quite as "integrated" as Exchange - there are other
> > options to allow scheduling meetings - without spending cash.  As far 
> > as
> > full-blown calendar sharing/serving stuff that works with different
> > calendar clients, there have been several free projects started over 
> > the
> > ages to do this, but all seem to have died - some never made it out of
> > planning.  Everybody seems to want this, but nobody seems to want to do
> > it.
> >
> >
> > One other option for all this.... buy Exchange and the Exchange plug-in
> > for Evolution.  That will give you all that you want, but will cost.
> >
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> > Lonnie Borntreger
> >
> >
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