On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 11:48, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> man, 22.03.2004 kl. 16.03 skrev Not Zed:
> 
> > ahh well i dunno, i guess it doesn't print the greeting afterall.
> > 
> > looking at the code, which is kind of complex, it doesn't look like
> > it'll try ssl first and fallback.
> 
> Actually, I've figured it out. Evo is piqued at me for ever leaving Exim
> for Postfix. Nigel Metheringham joins in and Evo remembers the good old
> Exim  days; ah, those heady, youthful, Exim days and reacts
> ultra-violently against Postfix. She senses I might go back, some day.
> 
> > try strace or perhaps tcpdump to see what its actually sending?
> 
> Jeff might express it differently ("*double shrug, nervous tick*"), but
> I put it like this: I've always loved Evo, warts an' all. If Evo doesn't
> annoy me by having Postfix send postmaster stupid messages every time a
> mail is sent, then she can send "?????" to Postfix as much as she likes,
> Thanks for bothering at all, NotZed! Good for you to know you're
> developing a unique product?

As Nigel mentioned, if Evolution is configured to use SSL Always or
something, it might be that the ???? thing is from a ssl-port connection
or some such? It is the only possible explanation that seems to make
sense to me.

Jeff

> 
> --Tonni
> 
> > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:23 +0100, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> > 
> > > man, 22.03.2004 kl. 07.41 skrev Not Zed:
> > > 
> > > > You've stripped off some of the debug output, e.g. the server greeting
> > > > response at least.
> > > 
> > > No, no - I'm very careful with that sort of thing and used to debugging.
> > > I deliberately showed the last "Fetch" from the Evo log, before Evo
> > > started the smtp output. Evo never reported the 502 that postfix gave.
> > > Unfortunately there's no date/time stamp nor pid info in the Evo log.
> > > 
> > > I don't know if one can increase the verbosity of CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG?
> > > 
> > > > And this ???? thing happens before then.
> > > > 
> > > > There should be something with a 502 response somewhere?
> > > 
> > > You have the whole snippet of the log as it was reported.
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > > Interesting log from Evo. I've pasted the exchange, first fom Postfix
> > > > > 2.0.18 snapshot, then from Evo. I did "preformat" for the postfix log,
> > > > > to avoid line wrapping, hope it comes over.
> > > > 
> > > > Yep worked fine.
> > > 
> > > --Tonni
> > > 
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