being the original poster i have to apologize for what was probably a
rude approach. 

i guess it's just that there has been this strange shift lately
regarding linux and the desktop. 

now - understand this is from the outside looking in so please keep that
in consideration.

i was a GNOME user since it's days of beta. i loved it! then some
strange things started happening (gpilotd not working for one) and i
switched from Ximian's GNOME (being the best GNOME) to KDE. next thing i
know the GNOME i know and love is really only now supported on a couple
of platforms. since i really like FC i know i probably won't jump that
shark anytime soon. so there's no Ximian GNOME for me. and there's not
evo2 until i know the upgrade process (via rpm) is not a nightmare. 

from what i've heard the new evo is amazing. so i don't much care about
the UI - big deal. i switched from balsa to evo and got used to it -
i'll get used to the new UI. but, again from what i understand, the
speed and reliability have improved quite a bit. kudos to the evo team
on that! 

so i guess maybe i'm a little jealous that i can't have my evo2 just
yet.

;-)

but i do sincerely apologize for the rudeness. i didn't mean to come off
that way.

jack

On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 15:15, Eric Lambart wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 13:34 -0500, David Moreno Garza wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 14:18 -0500, Eric Lambart wrote:
> > > Don't knock it 'til you try it.  If you still prefer the "old"
> > > Evolution, you can always fork the codebase and start your own project.
> > 
> > Well, I agree with Jack's opinion, lots of users are afraid of new
> > GUI's, probably it would be nice to skin Evolution to allow an old style
> > theme, or so.
> 
> The new design is not a "theme", it involves some fundamental UI
> changes, and I'm sure it will continue to change as time goes on.  Some
> people will like it, some won't.  You *can* however "theme" Evolution,
> along with the rest of your Gnome desktop (or by itself I suppose, if
> you don't use other Gnome apps).
> 
> > And a reply of 'fork the project' of an opinion seems too rude for a
> > user saying what s/he thinks, said by a hacker playing being adult.
> 
> I'm sorry you feel that way, David.  I've actually been "playing adult"
> for many years now, although I have played hacker for even longer.  I
> actually think the original message was rather rude, offering little
> except non-constructive, uninformed criticism.  I'll admit I've written
> similar sorts of posts myself in the past, but I also realize that they
> were very rude, and try my best now to think before I type.
> 
> Anyway, my suggestion about a fork was not a joke; it is a very real
> alternative.  You don't like the way a GPL product is going, either try
> to *constructively* participate in its design (before final decisions
> are made), or help yourself to a copy of the code the way it was when
> you still liked it, and go from there.  Open source software is all
> about freedom of choice, although when it involves cooperation and
> collaboration is when it really shines.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
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