On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 15:04 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 15:43 -0500, Paul M. Bucalo wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 11:59 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > 
> > > ---
> > > I will second this
> > > 
> > > I have no problem using jpilot or command line 'pilot-xfer /dev/pilot'
> > > but gpilotd is absolutely deaf to communications on FC3
> > 
> > I can appreciate your frustrations. I spent a lot of time figuring out
> > how to 'fix' this in FC3. Since I can sync my Handspring Visor by only
> > pressing the the base's hotsync button (nothing else before or after), I
> > wouldn't think "absolutely deaf to communications on FC3" would be
> > truthful.
> > 
> > > 
> > > # rpm -qa pilot-link jpilot gnome-pilot evolution
> > > pilot-link-0.11.8-8
> > > jpilot-0.99.7-2
> > > gnome-pilot-2.0.12-4
> > > evolution-2.0.2-3
> > 
> > Mine -
> > 
> > $ rpm -qa pilot-link jpilot gnome-pilot evolution
> > jpilot-0.99.7-2
> > evolution-2.0.2-3
> > pilot-link-0.11.8-8
> > gnome-pilot-2.0.12-4
> > 
> > > # uname -a
> > > Linux lin-workstation.azapple.com 2.6.10-1.741_FC3 #1 Thu Jan 13
> > > 16:38:22 EST 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > Mine -
> > 
> > $ uname -a
> > Linux pmbnote1 2.6.10-1.760_FC3 #1 Wed Feb 2 00:14:23 EST 2005 i686 i686
> > i386 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > BTW, I forgot to mention in my reply to Andrew Greig that an entry had
> > to be made in '/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules' to give directions on
> > what to create the dynamic /dev node and symlink. I did post this
> > earlier, but should have recapped it in my previous post. Sorry.
> > 
> > Granted, all of this should have been noted in some documentation
> > surrounding the gnome-pilot project, but now that it is known, I suspect
> > this will allow many to sync that couldn't before. Linux is about
> > choice, and going with other applications is a great idea, if that's
> > what you want. I want to work with Evo, if I can. That's my choice. I'm
> > not stuck with it. 
> > 
> > I can't possibly promise this will solve syncing problems for *everyone*
> > under *all* conditions. Nonetheless, I'm quite happy about this small
> > success and that I figured it out on my own. If after making these
> > changes on a laptop running FC3 it now works, where it wouldn't before,
> > I wouldn't say "gpilotd is absolutely deaf to communications on FC3."
> > Sorry. :0)
> ----
> I can't figure out what you did that would have made a difference but...
> 
> bad idea to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules as that file is
> replaced by updates - at least it was when udev update was released.
> Better to create /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules as that will persist
> thru updates and do the same function.

Thanks! I would never have known that. It never occurred to me that you
can have more than one set of 'rules'. I just thought all your rules go
in one file. Does the numbering of the rules file mean an order in which
it is being read?

> # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules
> KERNEL="ttyUSB1",SYMLINK="pilot"

My entry in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules

KERNEL="ttyUSB[0-9]*",SYMLINK="pilot"
BUS="usb", KERNEL="ttyUSB[0-9]*", NAME="usb/%k"

It may help for you to know that what you placed in your file wouldn't
work for me. How I came across the syntax above is by looking at the
entry for my Epson CX-5400, which was found, driven and worked from the
onset. 

This was the *only* syntax that worked for me.

> # cat /etc/udev/permissions.d/10-udev.permissions
> #set Palm Pilot rwx
> pilot*:root:usb:0666

I have this:

# pilot/palm devices
pilot:root:uucp:0660

This was 'stock'. I didn't add it. When I saw this, I made sure that my
user account had been made a member of 'uucp'. I normally do this from
past issues, anyway.

> and I left this out of my previous post since it obviously works or I
> wouldn't be able to sync using J-Pilot or 'pilot-xfer' since the
> existence of /dev/pilot depends upon them and that I press the sync
> button either on the phone or on the base...there is no perceptible
> difference between the two events as either will cause the /dev/pilot
> symlink to be created with the permissions as indicated.
> 
> If you have done something else to make it work, I would love to know
> what it was but I suspect that perhaps unknowingly, you stumbled upon
> something that made it work that you can't put your finger on.

If you look both of my posts on this, together, you will come up with
all that I have done. From the time I started this project until I
finished it, I made no updates and didn't add any new programming.
Additionally, if I remove what I added to 'rules' file I will not sync
no matter what. I tried several combinations in syntax, including yours,
and nothing would work but the way I have it. 

Thanks for the bit on the 'rules' file. You will definitely save me a
lot of head banging that would have happened the first time that file
got overwritten. :0)

HTH,

Paul

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