Hi Jeffrey, > perhaps you'd like to enlighten us on how to set off calendar alarms > without having any processes running?
Obviously Jeffrey, if no Evolution related processes are running no Evolution related alarms will be set off. My question revolved around whether any processes were still running after quitting evolution. It is a given that if no Evolution processes remain running that nothing, Evolution wise, will happen at all. > > Or worse the inability to make it stop (short of > > a logging in and logging out - though I still need to test whether it > > actually stops even through that). > > ??? I've recently discovered that processes can be started and remain running outside of KDE or Gnome. Call me a Linux newbie if you will but I did not quite realize this until recently. That's why I wondered if one needed to reboot the computer to be reassured of all Evolution processes stopping. Perhaps a dumb question but if so, please shalk iit up to my experience with some of this. > > The more I kick Evolution (like one would kick a tire) the more I am > > beginning to realize that this program has a lot of problems that still > > need to be ironed out. The last time I tried Evolution over a year ago > > it was a joke. Constantly crashing. > > wasn't constantly crashing for most people... if it was, we wouldn't > have shipped it. Hmmm...well...all one needs to do is read through reviews of the older Evolution to know that it had major problems Jeffrey. Lots and lots of problems with instability. Many considered that it was not quite a mature project yet and needed a lot of work to get there. At least from the reading I did at the time. It was very quirky and unstable for me running under KDE. I tried the old one for a day and quickly gave up on it. This new 2.0 version is much, much better. It is like night and day compared to the version that was around a year ago. At least in terms of stability. Of course I am running under Gnome now so maybe that was part of it. The main reason I tried it again, aside from KMail trashing a couple of hundred of my emails through a known but relatively rare bug, was that Novell had apparently taken over through it's buyout of Ximian. And given that I figured Evolution would now be supported in a way that would allow developers and others involved in the project to make greater progress. > > It's gotten a whole heck of a lot better and the developers and others > > involved in the 2.0 release are to be applauded but all this makes me > > wonder if I want to encourage business use of Evolution. I need a > > robust and rock solid application and am wondering if Evolution fits > > that bill. > > I'd say it is pretty robust. I think in terms of not crashing on me I would agree with you. So far it hasn't crashed once on me and that alone is awesome. I stand corrected Jeffrey :). I think I probably should not have used the term robust in what I said. I see that now. I guess what I meant was that business users don't have the inclination or the patience to go around doing this or that workaround for this or that problem to get it to work to their satisfaction. It either works and works well, without workarounds like going to a command line to use the -shutdown switch and other such things, or it does not. And if it doesn't they will just stick to their Microsoft Outlook and look upon Evolution as just another Linux program that must be tinkered with. Something they don't want to do. Not to belabor the point but for example if a user closes an application down they expect it to close down. And not continue to do things behind the scenes. That's the kind of stuff that can lead to undesirable consequences from an end user perspective. > > Even when I looked at the recent bugs fixed list I couldn't believe that > > Evolution had, until the bug was fixed, not kept emails on a POP server > > when told to do that. Among a huge list of other bugs. > > yes it did, that was a short lived bug that was caused by another fix > for broken pop servers. I understand Jeffrey. Again I have not been in on bug fixes, how many have been fixed, or what caused them, or even with how long they were around. I am only going by first impressions and I know all too well that such impressions can be wrong. Still, having that kind of bug even show up in a fixed bug listing causes my confidence in Evolution handling my email properly to be a wee bit shaken. Wondering if there might not be some other important bug lurking in there somewhere. That's not the kind of bug which one normally sees in a mature project that has been around for a long time. And whatever the reason for the bug, it is the kind of bug that would really upset me as an end user if I found out that the emails I downloaded at work, for example, were still not on the server on getting home to look at them again. Carlos _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [email protected] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
