What's an alternative to Evolution?
The addressbook thing kinda sucks.

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>    4. Re: [Evolution-hackers] Questions about evolution       future plan
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>    6. Re: [Evolution-hackers] Questions about evolution       future plan
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>    7. Re: GAL doesn't work at all (Anders N?slund)
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> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:50:51 +0200
> From: Anders N?slund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Using separate email accounts POP and IMAP
> To: "Evolution" <[email protected]>
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> AFAIK, there is no such setting if the account is POP. It will all be in
> Your one and only INBOX.
> IMAP is different, they will show up as different accounts.
> 
> /A
> 
> mn 2005-05-16 klockan 15:49 -0400 skrev Tony:
> 
> > I am thinking about moving to Evolution from Thunderbird because of
> > the calendaring and contacts PIM integration.  I have several email
> > accounts, some POP and some IMAP.
> > 
> > When I try to add more than one email account (initially I tried two
> > POP accounts), they are being created using the same "Inbox", "Draft"
> > and etc folders.  I want to keep them separate as in the example
> > below, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I don't see how to create
> > them separate so that they appear...
> > 
> > > On this Computer
> >         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >               Inbox
> >               Draft
> >               ... (and so on)
> >         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >               Inbox
> >               Draft
> >               ... (and so on)
> > 
> > > vFolders
> >         ...
> > 
> > Can someone clearify where this setting is when creating the accounts
> > separately?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [email protected]
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> From: Pete Biggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Using separate email accounts POP and IMAP
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> 
> But you can use filters to move the mail to separate folders based on
> the source account once it has been received.
> 
> P.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 10:50 +0200, Anders Nslund wrote:
> > AFAIK, there is no such setting if the account is POP. It will all be
> > in Your one and only INBOX.
> > IMAP is different, they will show up as different accounts.
> > 
> > /A
> > 
> > mn 2005-05-16 klockan 15:49 -0400 skrev Tony: 
> > > I am thinking about moving to Evolution from Thunderbird because of
> > > the calendaring and contacts PIM integration.  I have several email
> > > accounts, some POP and some IMAP.
> > > 
> > > When I try to add more than one email account (initially I tried two
> > > POP accounts), they are being created using the same "Inbox", "Draft"
> > > and etc folders.  I want to keep them separate as in the example
> > > below, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I don't see how to create
> > > them separate so that they appear...
> > > 
> > > > On this Computer
> > >         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >               Inbox
> > >               Draft
> > >               ... (and so on)
> > >         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >               Inbox
> > >               Draft
> > >               ... (and so on)
> > > 
> > > > vFolders
> > >         ...
> > > 
> > > Can someone clearify where this setting is when creating the accounts
> > > separately?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > evolution maillist  -  [email protected]
> > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist  -  [email protected]
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:58:13 +0300
> From: regatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] GAL doesn't work at all
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Evolution <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> is there a reason why evolution (or the connector) can't get the GAL
> by itself ? like outlook ?
> 
> On 5/17/05, Anders Nslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I think, in cases like this one should look at OWA and not Outlook.
> >  Outlook might see other connections then the https connection that is being
> > used for the Connector.
> >  
> >  /A
> >  
> >  tis 2005-05-17 klockan 08:21 +0300 skrev regatta: 
> >  Finally I was able to get it to work (thank you all)
> > 
> > I replace the GAL hostname to different one and it works now
> > 
> > PS: I got my non-working gal hostname from outlook, I don't know how
> > does't work with outlook
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/16/05, regatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I ran
> > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.2/evolution-exchange-storage in
> > the
> > > debug mod ( export E2K_DEBUG=4 ) and I got this
> > > 
> > > GC: looking up info for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > GC: Connecting to ldap://edha-00730-nd01.xxxxx.com:3268/
> > > GC: Failure sending first NTLM bind message: 0x51
> > > 
> > > ** (evolution-exchange-storage:32552): WARNING **: LDAP
> > authentication
> > > failed (0x51)
> > > GC: ldap_search failed: 0x51
> > > 
> > > the host edha-00730-nd01.xxxxx.com is my GAL and I got it from outlook
> > > , so I scanned the hostname and I didn't find the port 3268 open !!!
> > > 
> > > also why it's trying to accessing it as ldap server !!?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/16/05, Anders Nslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Is there a particular reason You are using LDAP and not the Exchange
> > server
> > > > for this??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > /A
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > mn 2005-05-16 klockan 13:43 +0300 skrev regatta:
> > > > Ok here what I did
> > > >
> > > > when I ran
> > > > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.2/evolution-exchange-storage (
> > I
> > > > have 2.2 ) I got :
> > > >
> > > > Evolution Exchange Storage up and running
> > > > ** (evolution-exchange-storage:15243): WARNING **: LDAP
> > > > authentication
> > > > failed (0x51)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > now when I go to the LDAP server properties and change the port to 636
> > > > and click ok and go back I find it change it to 389 !!! , I put "Use
> > > > secure connection" to always but it the same so I went to gconf and
> > > > change it there but I still can't access LDAP or GAL
> > > >
> > > > anyway what I have in Mozilla Address Book (which it works fine with
> > > > the LDAP and I can download all the address)
> > > >
> > > > hostname : ldap.*****.com
> > > > BaseDN= o=internet
> > > > Port: 636
> > > > Bind DN: (nothing)
> > > > use secure connection (SSL): yes
> > > >
> > > > now if I try to download the cards in mozilla it will ask me for user
> > > > name and password (which is the same password for my email) and it
> > > > will start downloading the cards
> > > >
> > > > I tried this in evolution but it doesn't ask for password and it doesn't
> > > > work
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > is the authentication LDAP not supported yet ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/16/05, Sushma Rai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > now I can see my calender and my tasks and also my contact (Thanks
> > > > > > alot), it was a migration bug
> > > > >
> > > > > File a bug on connector component on migration issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > > but as soon as I click in "Global Address List" it will display this
> > > > message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Error loading addressbook.
> > > > > > We were unable to open this addressbook. This either means you have
> > > > > > entered an incorrect URI, or the server is unreachable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > also when I t add LDAP account and try to access it it will display
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We were unable to open this addressbook. This either means you have
> > > > > > entered an incorrect URI, or the LDAP server is unreachable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > So both Exchange GAL and LDAP address books are not working for you?
> > > > > Can you run evolution-exchange-storage process in separate console and
> > > > > look for the error messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > (you need to first run
> > > > >
> > > >
> > <your-install-prefix>/libexec/evolution/2.4/evolution-exchange-storage
> > > > > and then run Evolution as
> > > > <your-install-prefix>/bin/evolution-2.4)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Sushma.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > evolution maillist - [email protected]
> > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > --------------------
> > > -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> --------------------
> -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:04:35 +0300
> From: regatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Evolution] Re: [Evolution-hackers] Questions about evolution
>       future plan
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected],       Evolution List
>       <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 5/17/05, Philip Van Hoof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 10:26 +0300, regatta wrote:
> > > Hi
> > 
> > > 2- Is there any hacked version of evolution (one that some hackers
> > > patch it with many unreleased patches so users can test it and use it
> > > also)
> > 
> > The version in the HEAD branch on cvs.gnome.org
> > 
> > More information:
> > 
> >   http://www.go-evolution.org/Compiling_Evolution_from_CVS
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Will this one is not what I'm looking for, I can download the CVS
> version but I am asking if somebody (or people) is patching the
> evolution with some non proved patches and using them
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> --------------------
> -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:15:42 +0100
> From: "regatta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Evolution] Re: [Evolution-hackers] Questions about evolution
>       future plan
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [email protected],       Evolution List
>       <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="ISO-8859-1"
> 
> On 5/17/05, Philip Van Hoof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 10:26 +0300, regatta wrote:
> > > Hi
> > 
> > > 2- Is there any hacked version of evolution (one that some hackers
> > > patch it with many unreleased patches so users can test it and use it
> > > also)
> > 
> > The version in the HEAD branch on cvs.gnome.org
> > 
> > More information:
> > 
> >   http://www.go-evolution.org/Compiling_Evolution_from_CVS
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Will this one is not what I'm looking for, I can download the CVS
> version but I am asking if somebody (or people) is patching the
> evolution with some non proved patches and using them
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> --------------------
> -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-
> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:18:06 +0200
> From: Philip Van Hoof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Evolution] Re: [Evolution-hackers] Questions about evolution
>       future plan
> To: regatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [email protected],       Evolution List
>       <[email protected]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 13:04 +0300, regatta wrote:
>  
> > > > 2- Is there any hacked version of evolution (one that some hackers
> > > > patch it with many unreleased patches so users can test it and use it
> > > > also)
> > > 
> > > The version in the HEAD branch on cvs.gnome.org
> > > 
> > > More information:
> > > 
> > >   http://www.go-evolution.org/Compiling_Evolution_from_CVS
> 
> 
> > Will this one is not what I'm looking for, I can download the CVS
> > version but I am asking if somebody (or people) is patching the
> > evolution with some non proved patches and using them
> 
> There's no "secret" version of evolution (well, not as far as I know).
> Everything "bleeding edge" and "new" is happening in cvs HEAD. 
> 
> You can find the pending patching in the evolution-patches mailinglist.
> 
> What version is being used by the developers is, of course, up to the
> developer themselves. If they decide to pre-patch their checkout with a
> specific patch (that isn't approved), then that's their own decision. I
> don't think a lot developers do that (except the module maintainer of
> the affected module) because once approved, it will generate a huge
> conflict in their checkout.
> 
> Most of them (patches in evo-patches) who've in fact been approved (and
> are committed to HEAD) have a reply where a module-maintainer approved
> the differences.
> 
> So to get the most insanely unstable and bleeding edge stuff: just get
> the version in cvs HEAD. It will be unstable enough for all developers
> of this tiny world. If you're a developer, I assure you you'll like
> it :-).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Philip Van Hoof, Software Developer @ Cronos
> home: me at pvanhoof dot be
> gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org
> work: philip dot vanhoof at cronos dot be
> junk: philip dot vanhoof at gmail dot com
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> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:25:28 +0200
> From: Anders N?slund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] GAL doesn't work at all
> To: "regatta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Evolution <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
> 
> Connector is using the WebDAV interface to talk with Exchange (same as
> the OWA) and not MAPI.
> I think in theory it could talk direct to the GAL if it sees it as an
> LDAP server, not sure however, that this is enabled in the Exchange
> environment by default (making GAL visible as LDAP)
> 
> /A
> 
> 
> tis 2005-05-17 klockan 12:58 +0300 skrev regatta:
> 
> > is there a reason why evolution (or the connector) can't get the GAL
> > by itself ? like outlook ?
> > 
> > On 5/17/05, Anders Nslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  I think, in cases like this one should look at OWA and not Outlook.
> > >  Outlook might see other connections then the https connection that is 
> > > being
> > > used for the Connector.
> > >  
> > >  /A
> > >  
> > >  tis 2005-05-17 klockan 08:21 +0300 skrev regatta: 
> > >  Finally I was able to get it to work (thank you all)
> > > 
> > > I replace the GAL hostname to different one and it works now
> > > 
> > > PS: I got my non-working gal hostname from outlook, I don't know how
> > > does't work with outlook
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/16/05, regatta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I ran
> > > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.2/evolution-exchange-storage in
> > > the
> > > > debug mod ( export E2K_DEBUG=4 ) and I got this
> > > > 
> > > > GC: looking up info for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > GC: Connecting to ldap://edha-00730-nd01.xxxxx.com:3268/
> > > > GC: Failure sending first NTLM bind message: 0x51
> > > > 
> > > > ** (evolution-exchange-storage:32552): WARNING **: LDAP
> > > authentication
> > > > failed (0x51)
> > > > GC: ldap_search failed: 0x51
> > > > 
> > > > the host edha-00730-nd01.xxxxx.com is my GAL and I got it from outlook
> > > > , so I scanned the hostname and I didn't find the port 3268 open !!!
> > > > 
> > > > also why it's trying to accessing it as ldap server !!?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 5/16/05, Anders Nslund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Is there a particular reason You are using LDAP and not the Exchange
> > > server
> > > > > for this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > /A
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > mn 2005-05-16 klockan 13:43 +0300 skrev regatta:
> > > > > Ok here what I did
> > > > >
> > > > > when I ran
> > > > > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.2/evolution-exchange-storage (
> > > I
> > > > > have 2.2 ) I got :
> > > > >
> > > > > Evolution Exchange Storage up and running
> > > > > ** (evolution-exchange-storage:15243): WARNING **: LDAP
> > > > > authentication
> > > > > failed (0x51)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > now when I go to the LDAP server properties and change the port to 636
> > > > > and click ok and go back I find it change it to 389 !!! , I put "Use
> > > > > secure connection" to always but it the same so I went to gconf and
> > > > > change it there but I still can't access LDAP or GAL
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway what I have in Mozilla Address Book (which it works fine with
> > > > > the LDAP and I can download all the address)
> > > > >
> > > > > hostname : ldap.*****.com
> > > > > BaseDN= o=internet
> > > > > Port: 636
> > > > > Bind DN: (nothing)
> > > > > use secure connection (SSL): yes
> > > > >
> > > > > now if I try to download the cards in mozilla it will ask me for user
> > > > > name and password (which is the same password for my email) and it
> > > > > will start downloading the cards
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried this in evolution but it doesn't ask for password and it 
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > work
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > is the authentication LDAP not supported yet ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/16/05, Sushma Rai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > now I can see my calender and my tasks and also my contact (Thanks
> > > > > > > alot), it was a migration bug
> > > > > >
> > > > > > File a bug on connector component on migration issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > but as soon as I click in "Global Address List" it will display 
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > message
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Error loading addressbook.
> > > > > > > We were unable to open this addressbook. This either means you 
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > entered an incorrect URI, or the server is unreachable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > also when I t add LDAP account and try to access it it will 
> > > > > > > display
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We were unable to open this addressbook. This either means you 
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > entered an incorrect URI, or the LDAP server is unreachable.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > So both Exchange GAL and LDAP address books are not working for you?
> > > > > > Can you run evolution-exchange-storage process in separate console 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > look for the error messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (you need to first run
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > <your-install-prefix>/libexec/evolution/2.4/evolution-exchange-storage
> > > > > > and then run Evolution as
> > > > > <your-install-prefix>/bin/evolution-2.4)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Sushma.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > evolution maillist - [email protected]
> > > > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > --------------------
> > > > -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > 
> > 
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