On Wed, 2001-09-19 at 21:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 19 Sep 2001, Eric Lambart had this to say: > >I hate pointing devices in general though moving to linux from Windoze > >has forced me to get used to it (one can do almost ANYTHING in Windows > > This is funny to me. Windows was designed to keep you away from the > keyboard and just use a pointer, linux is primarily console-cased. > Actually, I don't think there's much you can't do using the keyboard in > linux either... > > Cheers, > -Don I'll admit that with sawfish, keyboard support for the GUI in general is wonderfully customizable--and when I occasionally have to use Windows, I miss some of that "extra" power (just try maximizing a window vertically-only in Windows! In linux I do it with a Ctrl-Alt-M). But with Evolution, try (for example) moving my message to another folder. When you've got it selected, hit Ctrl-Shift-M. Good. Now you've got a pretty little window. Now, let's see what can you do with the keyboard while you're there. 1) If you've already got a folder selected from the last time you did it, you can probably focus and use space to select OK. 2) You can use Tab and select "New", but then just TRY creating a new folder without the mouse!! Forget it. 3) You can also Tab to and hit "Cancel". This is one of many features in Evolution, and many things in the linux desktop world in general that has broken, or near-broken, keyboard support (for crying out loud, how come not a single Yes/No dialog box allows you to simply press Y or N?!!). Partial support is little better than no support at all, because once I reach for my trackball I might as well keep my hand there anyway. I started using computers before anyone I know had heard of a "mouse", and accepted them only grudgingly because they are indeed better for some things. Of course we as people also all different, and that's good. You don't have to like the keyboard, you don't have to hate mice. But I still find it really depressing that Microsoft, who probably has a smaller percentage of its user base (maybe 5%?) that actually cares about this, does a near-perfect job of supporting the keyboard than a bunch of hackers who live and breathe the stuff as a passion. As a programmer myself, I find it hard to believe that ANY other programmer--presumably also fairly knowledgeable "power" user--would prefer using a mouse to a keyboard. Some of my coworkers fit into this category, so I know this isn't true, but I can't pretend to understand this. This has turned into a bit of rant, and although it might be slightly impolite to do so, it's not completely off-topic so I'm going to CC it back to the Evolution list. I would love to hear feedback from both sides of the issue. Cheers --Eric _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
