The Mac does not seem to have any menu items for the message-browser window other than "close window". For sure it does not allow next/prev.
personally I feel reading mail using the message-browser is broken anyway. Think of this as getting rid of excess baggage :-) Not to mention it makes the message-browser code extremely simple to maintain and very fast to load as well. The old message-browser code was the ugliest code any programmer has ever seen in his entire life due to the chaining of async calls/signal callbacks that were needed in order to simply load the message in the GtkHTML widget. Add on top of that a few more hacks to make the menu items work (which were only meant to be used on a FolderBrowser object). Even after all of that, you still have a ton of bugs because the message-browser doesn't use the same sort as the main window, nor does using next/prev update the selected message in the message-list in the main window. In fact, doing this would be extremely difficult and would probably require a complete overhaul of all of the mailer code (not gonna happen anytime soon). The way I see it, the only use for opening a message-browser window is to view it full screen. A mesage-list is what should be used for navigating messages - that's the whole purpose of the message-list afterall. Just because mutt and pine let you browse with a "message-browser" doesn't make it the best way to read mail. It's just that for console, that is the most efficient way of doing it because you don't have as much space to work with (25x80 is just not enough to be able to split into a message-list and view pane). I'm on a 15" monitor with 1024x768 resolution using 14pt fonts and 90% of the mail I get can be viewed in a single message-list/view-pane split at 1/3:2/3 ratio. And assuming that's not possible, I can hit the space bar and it'll scroll. It's not like you can get much more efficient than that. As far as I can tell, there are only 2 reasons to ever use the message-browser window: 1. you are the type of person that uses the message-browser for viewing as much message as possible at full screen and using the next/prev toolbar buttons. If this is you, perhaps you should consider shrinking the size of your message-list (since you obviously don't use it anyway). By doing this, you get nearly as much viewable message as you do with a full-screen view message-browser window. 2. you are the type of person that likes maximal message-list view and use the message-browser to read mail. If this is you, then the current message-browser solution shouldn't be a problem for you - it does exactly what you always wanted. My humble-but-correct-opinion said, I will look into either rolling back to the old message-browser window for the 1.2 release or else modifying the current mesage-browser window to subclass GnomeApp (thus having menus/toolbars) that allow the user to reply and forward the viewed message (will not move/copy/delete or do next/prev because that would be impossible to implement without doing evil gross hacks). Jeff PS: patches welcome. On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 20:24, Not Zed wrote: > Ahah! Yes that is exactly it. > > You mac loving GUI designers please take note ... without the global > context-sensitive menu bar (which personally I think is a great idea, > AmigaOS had one too) you need to chuck on menu bars (and these days tool > bars) and other crap which clutter the ui, but is still necessary, > otherwise you end up with a non-functional app that is hard to use (even > if its 'simple'). > > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 00:09, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote: > > Actually, I have been a Mac user for years, and the user interface > > has worked for me nicely all along. > > > > What is missing in Evolution attempts to mimic the Mac interface is > > that there is no global application-specific menu bar that all the > > application windows can share. If that were there, this approach > > would work. However, the Linux GUIs currently do not support that. > > > > Ujwal > > > > > > > > At 1:31 PM +0300 5/22/02, Martin-�ric Racine wrote: > > >No need to. Just roll back CVs to where it was for the required > > >files and wake > > >up to the fact that not everything Mac does is the right thing to do, however > > >cute and apparently user-friendly it might be. ,-) > > > > > >On 21 May 2002, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > > >> You're free to submit a patch :-) > > > > > >-- > > >Martin-�ric Racine, Helsinki, Finland. > > >http://www.pp.fishpool.fi/~q-funk/ > > >+358 41 474 0289 > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > > > _______________________________________________ > evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution > _______________________________________________ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
