Understood -- and I'm not debating these questions in light of RDMAoE/
IBoE/whateveroE.
I'm asking how tightly these questions have been applied to all the
other stacks in OFED. For example, RDS, SRP, and verbs itself. Are
any of these published/standardized APIs other than the fact that
they're in OFED?
What does it mean to have a standard body "associated" with a
proposal? Does "associated" mean that the proposal/API is a published
standard in that standards body? Or some weaker definition?
On Jun 16, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Ryan, Jim wrote:
Jeff, thanks, I'll try to keep this as brief as possible and offer
more offline if anyone wants it:
- The bylaws state the requirement for a standards body to be
associated with a proposal. It contains some examples, including the
IETF and the IBTA (and others)
- I think it's fair to say there's some ambiguity around what a
"proposal" would consist of. That's part of the discussion I've
tried to get started in the past, unsuccessfully
- The bylaws also say the Board can ID other such bodies as the need
is perceived
- My best understanding is the IBTA is developing a spec that
addresses this area. Work has started, but I don't have a timeline
for delivery.
An obvious concern to me is having code submitted prior to a spec
being agreed
Jim
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On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Ryan, Jim wrote:
> - There was no standards body associated with the proposal.
>
Clarification question on this -- what exactly does this statement
mean? I ask because if you take that statement to the extreme, many
things in OFED may not qualify.
For example, the uDAPL software API is standardized, so I assume it's
fine. The iWARP and IB hardware layers are standardized, but are
there standardized software APIs? Specifically: the verbs software
stack is not standardized by any standards body, is it? (what is the
exact definition of "standards body", anyway -- does consensus of OFED
members count?)
These may be naive questions (I don't follow these APIs at all), but
is the RDS API standardized? Is SRP? Are the various tools that are
shipped in OFED standardized?
I'm sure we don't want to take all these things out of OFED, but some
clarification of the rules might be useful.
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