Were actually thinking about storing all outgoing email on floppy disks and then 
sending them to the recipients through snail mail. We figure if we can get everyone 
who sends us email to do it this way too, we can open it on a standalone machine and 
get rid of all the spam and viruses before delivering it to our users on foot - RFC 
41237689.2?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


that is where we are headed .. 

we already do this with all the other attachmnets ... now on to the
.zips

I figure one day we will  "block all attachments except ..." and we will
only allow the specific attachment extension for our organization (i.e
we only accept .mike attachments with instructions on what to rename
them to)

Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


We block exe, com, bat, pif, scr and now zip files at our firewall. We
have blocked zips since the first hours of MyDoom.A and I havent had to
worry about what antivirus product protected against which variant of
what worm and how quickly - its been kind of nice... Our Community knows
that we do block these extensions so if someone is going to send them
something, they ask the sender to change the extension and then it is up
to the User to change it back. A few folks werent real happy with this
but they understand the current state of affairs with viri, et al and
have come around to it quite nicely.

Jeff Hague
MCSE
Network Manager
Randolph-Macon College
Ashland, VA

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


Why would you need a 3rd party utility?  You provide the link to the
actual file, and their browser will automatically prompt them to open or
save the file.

Link such as:
Http://www.company.com/download.exe

Clicking that link would prompt the customer to either open or save the
file.  We recently did this, but used FTP instead of http. 


Ben Winzenz
Microsoft Exchange MVP
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
Ph (317) 843-3418



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Helfer
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


 3rd party utility, I presume? 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin Blackstone
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h

Put them on a web server and provide a URL. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Helfer
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


 But what if your business needs include sending files via email that
may be compressed or password-protected compressed?

 Jim Helfer
 WTW Architects
 Pittsburgh PA 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron
Brasslett
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Time to start preparing - bagle.h

Use Antigen and enabled 'Delete Encrypted Compressed Files'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Time to start preparing - bagle.h


Well I think we all saw this coming.  Originally it was safe to allow
zip's to pass through and we all know that is no longer true.  I
personally have been at a 0 day infection site (when no pattern file was
available) twice in the past 3 weeks for two different worms that came
in as zip files Now this:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BAG
LE.H


A worm\virus that comes in as a password protected zip.  Now things are
going to get interesting on how we protect our mail systems.  Any one
have any thoughts?  One of the ideas that is being tossed around here is
stripping all attachments and storing them in a central DB and replacing
the attachments with URLs (via 3rd party program most likely).  This
would put all the attachments in a central store and be easier to manage
and during an outbreak we would have more power over the data in that
repository and who can access it (makes cleaning up easier too I would
think).  Anyhow, time to start planning and being proactive....any
ideas?

Steve

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