Clustering it the only benefit, you are right about that...but you do have more store groups and databases to play with when using exchange 2003 enterprise. Could probably create different storage groups and databases based on management level and/or location.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cary, Mark Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues The only redundancy that (I am aware of) enterprise has over standard is clustering. What redundancy are you talking about? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues The time is takes to restore the database is not a big issue...But you have to consider the benefits of using an enterprise solution. It has much better redundancy and when email is the primary method of communication for your business you have do everything to make sure that you have 0 downtime. I am currently moving away from backing up data on tapes because it is just a slow and ridiculous process I am looking at a SAN for a much better and faster solution. I would not consider us a small company...we are currently at 120 employees and growing rapidly. Our email volume is about 6,000 messages per day. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey FTL Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues Plus what's faster - restoring one huge information store (if a disaster strikes) or one of the smaller ones? You see, with Exchange 5.5 Enterprise you are lured into further growing your information store. If you backup/restore system is not very fast, then your backups will be taking longer and longer time to complete and your restores will take a pretty long time too. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Scott Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues I would say the Standard edition is fine if it fits the business requirement. SBS which includes Exchange Standard is a bargain for a small company. -----Original Message----- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2004 13:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues I wouldn't buy Standard regardless of the cost. 16GB is way too small of a limit. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues Enterprise has (virtually) unlimited message storage, so it can easily support more than the equivalent of 2 or 3 (or more) standard edition servers. I think the real theory with building a large enterprise edition server is that it is 'large', has multiple redundant components and highly resilient to failure. A $2,600 server is not going to be as resilient. I guess it's just different strokes for different organizational needs, but I do still accept your point though, as we had to make a decision about purchasing enterprise edition last year as well. We considered a second server, but in the end it was just more straightforward, and one less server to manage, to plump up for the enterprise upgrade. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Cary, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2004 21:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues That's I good question I have been wondering myself. If a company is up against the 16GB limit of Exchange standard, should the upgrade to enterprise or get another standard box? Has anyone done any pricing comparison on: 1) One Big box running Enterprise. $3,999 Enterprise license. 2) Two small boxes running standard. $1,398 two Standard licenses. <http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/howtobuy/enterprise.asp> The $2,600 difference would almost buy the hardware for the second box. What am I missing? **Prices are retail, for whoever pays that. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox store issues I was given this suggestion my by boss: Why don't I setup a second exchange server then add an additional database to it? I am not exactly sure how that would work. How would two exchange servers that are not in a cluster function together? How would the mail reach the correct server? How would my users know where to pick up their mail? What are the issues with doing something like this? Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry, Christopher M. Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mailbox store issues I am in between a rock and a hard place...It seems as if all our "interim fixes" has finally caught up to us. But anyway here is my situation (keep in mind I am not an exchange person...but in this case I have to be one) Two weeks before the roll out of our new windows 2003/exchange 2003 servers I put the whole thing on hold because I didn't believe the standard versions would help. I have been fighting to get the funds for the enterprise versions since then. However while poking around our exchange server I noticed that our storage group was fairly large, actually the size of the database is 15.7 gigs (keep in mind the maximum size is 16 gigs) my question is this: 1. Can I mount an exch 2000 database in exch 2003? (I know how to migrate users the long way...) 2. Is there a way to compress the database until I receive the necessary funds to upgrade? 3. How do you all deal with everyone using their email as filestorage? 4. Is there a quick fix for my large database issue. 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