I don't see what this accomplishes:

1. where the server is delivering messages for multiple domains.  If a
company has subsidiaries and brands the email of those subsidiaries with
their name (Let's say for example that acme.com owns foo.com).  If
Acme.com uses it's servers to deliver messages for foo.com, would that
be flagged as spam (presuming that whoever is doing this kind level of
checking is going to be also checking the sender against the machine
domain)?

2. If I am a spammer using home DSL or broadband, and I populate my SMTP
server header information with the information gathered by a reverse DNS
lookup (or if alternately I use something like dynamic DNS to publish my
own DNS information and can update it rapidly), when you resolve the
machine name to an IP address, do you accept that as not being spam?  If
not, how do you get around it? 


It seems like an odd and not particularly effective means to do any kind
of filtering.

/Gordon

The converse is, if I do register every outgoing server in DNS, I am
potentially providing a map of my network which is information the
world-at-large doesn't need.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Vander Kooi
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MX records and Reverse DNS lookup

SBD does it now. So if you have yours setup in a way that doesn't
conform you're going to start having a good sized chunk of mail not
reach it's intended recipient. And it's just going to get worse over
time. It's very simple to set an rDNS entry that matches your HELO
though, so I'm not sure it's a huge deal. Just something that all
Exchange and Network admins need to be aware of.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MX records and Reverse DNS lookup


To all who consider rejecting an SMTP connection based on what's in the
HELO command, you WILL start rejecting valid email:

If you reject connections based on no PTR record for the connecting IP,
you will reject a little valid email.
If you reject based on the PTR record not matching the host name in the
HELO, you will reject a lot of valid email. 

Thus the prophets spoke in RFC2821 verse 4.1.4

   An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
   command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
   However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
   reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
   failure is for logging and tracing only.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim
Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MX records and Reverse DNS lookup


 
What most of them are doing is looking at the PTR record of the sending
IP and compare it to what you announce in your HELO. And making sure
they match. They do this because it is very effective at weeding out
zombied machines. The SMTP HELO of the infected machine is not going to
match the PTR of the IP.

What they are doing is suggested by the RFC's, but not required.

So this is an easy fix for you. Just look at the PTR of each of your
public IP addresses that your email servers use. Then go into Exchange
and adjust the HELO to match. Hopefully you have exchange 2003, it is a
really easy fix. It is in the SMTP properties as 'masquerade domain'

JK



-----Original Message-----
From:  On Behalf Of April Fleming
Subject: MX records and Reverse DNS lookup

It is my understanding that many email servers will do a reverse dns
lookup on incoming email to ensure a valid domain when sifting out spam
etc.

Thus, I must ensure that my email server which is sending out email must
have an MX record so the Reverse DNS lookup will suceed.

What I would like to know is whether the weight given the MX record will
affect the reverse dns lookup.  If I have email being sent from email
server 3 (don't ask why, it isn't the point :)  and that email server is
weighted 15, will the email servers I am sending out to accept the
email?

Example 

MX      5       Email server 1
MX      10      Email server 2
MX      15      Email server 3

Thank you!

April 

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