Erick,

I believe, though I could be wrong, that it supports the concept of 'deep
packet inspection' for proxies.  Though I have no direct experience with
that firewall to the degree of configuring in-bound proxies.

What version/release is it running?  I may know someone who can just answer
that question straight.


K 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erick
Thompson
Sent: 22 July 2004 00:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server

Do you know if the Netscreen 25 can do that? 

Thanks,
Erick 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> knighTslayer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 3:50 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> Better off with ISA Proxy very true too.
> 
> Or any decent firewall that can smart proxy in-bound tcp traffic. 
> Probably cheaper than introducing ISA server in to the frame.
> 
> Check with you firewall vendor.
> 
> A good firewall example:
> 
> http://www.cyberguard.com/news_room/whitepaper_smartproxies.cfm
> 
> K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed 
> Crowley [MVP]
> Sent: 21 July 2004 23:42
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> You're better off with a web proxy server in the DMZ such as ISA than 
> a front-end server.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> knighTslayer
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 3:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> I agree with Dean.
> 
> If at least the FE server is in a DMZ and you are logging on both 
> External AND DMZ interfaces on your chosen firewall, then you are much 
> better informed than JUST logging on a External to Internal NAT'd 
> level.
> 
> It's a given that we all review firewall log reports regularly of' 
> course.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Dean Cunningham
> Sent: 21 July 2004 23:12
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> I need no convincing, your the one that needs convincing ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/07/2004 9:22:41 a.m. >>>
> You keep convincing yourself of that...  ;o)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> You'll never convince me to do that ;-) if the FE is compromised, so 
> is your whole network.
> At lease with it in the DMZ, you have some control over the ports and 
> addresses it can connect internally to.
> 
> What persuaded you to change?
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/07/2004 7:10:36 a.m. >>>
> It is not really THAT many ports, but we had these discussions here a 
> bunch ot times and came to a conclusion that front-end in DMZ would 
> not be a good thing to do. I actually used to be for the DMZ idea in 
> the past but got persuaded to change my mind.
> 
> If you still want to explore it, there are MS whitepapers on 
> front-end/back-end Exchange configuration and on Exchange hosting that 
> show all the ports that you will need to open.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Rosselle, Brett
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> 
> I haven't actually deployed it(in production) yet, so either option is 
> still viable.
> 
> Any particular reason for not having it in the DMZ, other than having 
> to define a zillion ports, or is that the main reason? If it is, it's 
> a good enough reason for me.
> 
> Brett
> 
> 
>   
> --
> Brett Rosselle
> Systems Administrator
> Brightpoint North America
> 317.707.2525 Tel
> 317.707.2397 Fax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> I concur
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Fyodorov, Andrey FTL
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> Take that front-end out of DMZ and put it into the internal network.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Rosselle, Brett
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: DMZ ports for Front End Server
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm guessing this had been covered in the past. I thought the Exchange 
> discussions website had a search feature, but either it does not, or I 
> am just not capable of finding it.
>  
> I'm trying to find a list of the minimum ports needed for a
> 2003 Front End server to be able to connect back to the internal 
> network from the DMZ.
>  
> I found this link:
>  
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q278339
>  
> Not sure if it's correct for this aplication. Is there a better list 
> somewhere?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Brett
>  
>  
> --
> Brett Rosselle
> Systems Administrator
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