My thoughts exactly....  :D

Paul Kondilys
Manager, Information Technology
4Kids Entertainment, Inc.
1414 Ave. of the Americas
New York, N.Y.  10019
Phone:  (646) 822-4271
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL

Better still, get rid of AOL ;-)

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
> Sent: 10 August 2004 18:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> You guys should just get rid of email. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> "Messages that fail the check will not be rejected, but will 
> be further scrutinized and filtered, said Craig Spiezle, 
> director of Microsoft's Safety Technology and Strategy Group."
> 
> OK. That's not exactly what AOL is doing. They are using it 
> as a flag to determine if they need to look closer at the 
> e-mail. AOL is stating that they will reject.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> MS has said the same thing
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/22/HNmicrosoftid_1.html
> This will obviously affect Hotmail and MSN.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of David, Andy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> I believe a draft RFC has been written or is being written. 
> AOL had mad skillz.
> http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3365651 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 1:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> Can you point me to the RFC's that say that I must use SPF 
> records or is AOL going cowboy and implementing internet 
> standards with out any input? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> Do any of you guys have SPF records for your domains? We used 
> to have some issues with AOL mail bouncing occasionally even 
> though our RDNS is setup correctly. About 3 weeks ago I 
> finally added SPF records and have no issues since. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> Thanks guys
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Kondilys
> Manager, Information Technology
> 4Kids Entertainment, Inc.
> 1414 Ave. of the Americas
> New York, N.Y.  10019
> Phone:  (646) 822-4271
> E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of David, Andy
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> http://postmaster.info.aol.com/contact/
> 
> Call em up and get a ticket. Hopefully they will fix their 
> BAS if enough people complain.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Jason Rader
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> 
> We're experiencing them as well.
> 
> Jason Rader
> Printpack Inc
> 
> 
> >From: Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:45:42 -0700
> >
> >I have heard a few people are having this same issue. I think Andy 
> >David commented on this yesterday.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:37 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: LARGE AMOUNT OF NDR'S FROM AOL
> >Importance: High
> >
> >Hey guys,
> >
> >This a new one....just started yesterday.  We are receiving a lot of 
> >NDR's to aol e-mail addresses.  Anyone out there 
> experiencing the same
> thing?
> >Actual message I get in exchange server application log is 
> as follows:
> >
> >Event Type:  Warning
> >Event Source:        MSExchangeTransport
> >Event Category:      NDR
> >Event ID:    3022
> >Date:                8/10/2004
> >Time:                11:28:28 AM
> >User:                N/A
> >Computer:    EXCHSVR3
> >Description:
> >A non-delivery report with a status code of 5.5.0 was generated for 
> >recipient rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Message-ID 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>).
> >Cause:  This message indicates a generic protocol error 
> (SMTP error).  
> >For example, the remote SMTP responds to an issued EHLO with a 500 
> >level error and the sending system will QUIT the connection 
> and report 
> >this with NDR indicating the remote SMTP server can�t handle 
> the protocol.
> >Solution:  View the SMTP log or run a netmon trace to see why the 
> >remote SMTP server rejects the protocol request.
> >
> >We haven't changed anything on our exchange server, or any 
> DNS settings.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
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