I think we can all agree that having a mx record is a GoodThing and having a
mailer that will fall back to an A record is a GoodThing as well if it cant
find a mx. 
Note that Symantec will also not deliver if it finds a CNAME. 
As far as I can tell however the "implicit MX" rule is not a MUST either. 


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B.
Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: undeliverable domain

OK, Chris pulled out the OLD RFC so I thought to pull out the current one.
:-)

RFC 2821, section 5:

5. Address Resolution and Mail Handling

   Once an SMTP client lexically identifies a domain to which mail will
   be delivered for processing (as described in sections 3.6 and 3.7), a
   DNS lookup MUST be performed to resolve the domain name [22].  The
   names are expected to be fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs):
   mechanisms for inferring FQDNs from partial names or local aliases
   are outside of this specification and, due to a history of problems,
   are generally discouraged.  The lookup first attempts to locate an MX
   record associated with the name.  "implicit MX"   If
   no MX records are found, but an A RR is found, the A RR is treated as
   if it was associated with an implicit MX RR, with a preference of 0,
   pointing to that host.  If one or more MX RRs are found for a given
   name, SMTP systems MUST NOT utilize any A RRs associated with that
   name unless they are located using the MX RRs; the "implicit MX" rule
   above applies only if there are no MX records present.  If MX records
   are present, but none of them are usable, this situation MUST be
   reported as an error. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
B. Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: undeliverable domain

That's not the RFC rule.

The RFC requires attempted delivery to the "A" record if no "MX" records
exist.

I didn't look it up, but I sure could. It's in either RFC 2821 or RFC 2822. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: undeliverable domain

That must be the party line excuse because I hear that as well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Beeler
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: undeliverable domain

It's safe to say that the product sucks.  My company got it in the Symantec
enterprise "Suite", effectively for free.

I'm trying to convince them to use a linux mail host running sendmail - as
I've been doing for the last while - but to no avail.

Symantec's line is that they go by strict RFC rules - my reply, was that's
fine, but what about the real world rules?

Anyway, thanks for the input.
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