NDRs should always have <> as an originator. If you see messages in your
outbound queue /from/ an unknown address, search the SMTP logs for that
address and try to determine what IP address the message originated
from. 

-- 
Chris Scharff
Messaging Services Architect
MessageOne
[o] 512.652.4500 x244
[m] 512.560.2984
[f] 512.652.4504
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Chris H
> Posted At: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:53 AM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: 5.5 Outgoing SMTP queue
> Subject: Re: 5.5 Outgoing SMTP queue
> 
> 
> so what I am gleaming from this is:
> 
> in the tracking log there are obviously thousands of emails 
> over the last day. All are to legitimate internal addresses 
> or bad internal addresses. When the NDR goes back from one of 
> these 'bad' addresses it is the email in my outgoing smtp 
> queue with a destination of (for
> example) aol.com and an originator of either <> (null) or (most likely
> bad) [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . .
> 
> 
> Chris Scharff wrote:
> 
> >Yes, those would be problems. Look at your SMTP tracking logs. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >>Chris H Posted At: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:46 AM Posted 
> To: swynk
> >>Conversation: 5.5 Outgoing SMTP queue
> >>Subject: Re: 5.5 Outgoing SMTP queue
> >>
> >>
> >>That I know! ;)
> >>
> >>I was more refering to the 100 aol.com and yahoo.com emails with 
> >>originator addresses I dont recognize . . .
> >>
> >>Kennedy, Jim wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>From <> is a non-delivery report. It is sent with a null from to
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>prevent
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>loops. So each one represents an email your server accepted for an 
> >>>invalid address in your domain, your server is trying to send back 
> >>>notification that the original to address is invalid. And 
> since the 
> >>>original was probably spam the domain your server is trying
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>to send to
> >>    
> >>
> >>>also does not exists. So they get stuck in your queue until
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>they time
> >>    
> >>
> >>>out.
> >>>
> >>>JK
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of 
> >>>>Chris H
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:29 AM
> >>>>To: Exchange Discussions
> >>>>Subject: 5.5 Outgoing SMTP queue
> >>>>
> >>>>is it safe to assume that in the queue listing if it does
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>not have my
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>users in the ORIGINATOR column it is UCE? If it is a group email, 
> >>>>group reply, etc. would a different email address appear in 
> >>>>ORIGINATOR? I mean, in my queue, it is literally 100 to 1
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>what looks
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>like legitimate email vs. an originator I havent heard of
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>or <>. I do
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>understand the <>. ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>Chris
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
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