Agreed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication (XOSoft WANSync Non-
> HA or HA)
> 
> I wouldn't use one nic each. Whether with clustering or replication I
> personally would advise having a dedicated link for interserver
> communication, preferably not hooked up to the same switch/hub (a
> crossover cable is in many ways the ideal). With clustering, losing the
> server-server link can cause split-mind, where each node thinks it's the
> owner (depending on the shared disk). With replication, you don't want
> client-server bandwidth useage to interfere with the replication needs
> (and vice/versa).
> 
> NIC's are cheap enough to make this a nobrainer.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Wesley Joyce
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:56 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication (XOSoft
> > WANSync Non-HA or HA)
> >
> > Nothing fancy you say, your setup makes my setup of using my
> > existing 100mbit backbone between nodes (with 1 nic each)
> > sound like a bad idea.  :)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Mann
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:42 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication
> > (XOSoft WANSync
> > > Non- HA or HA)
> > >
> > > Nothing fancy currently.  Each server has 2 GigE NICs
> > teamed for ALB.
> > > All 4 ports plugged into the same VLAN in a Catalyst 6513 on a GigE
> > > blade.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Kevinm [DC]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:03 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication
> > (XOSoft WANSync
> > > Non-HA or HA)
> > >
> > > What are you using for a connection between the double take nodes??
> > >
> > > I have a great T shirt from them.
> > >
> > > "Doubletake - when once a night is not enough"
> > >
> > > -- Kevinm WLKMMAS Exchange MVP
> > > HTTP://WWW.WLKMMAS.ORG
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Evan Mann
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:52 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication
> > (XOSoft WANSync
> > > Non-HA or HA)
> > >
> > > We opted for replication.  I have 2 identical exchange servers with
> > > externally attached SCSI JBOD's where the stores are kept.  The
> > > logs/OS are kept in 2 internal RAID arrays in the server.
> > >
> > > We use Double-Take software with straight replication and failover
> > > monitoring.  With Exchange, thre is a custom app
> > Double-Take puts out
> > > that takes cares of all the failover changes.  The replication is
> > > handled by Double-Take itself which is just constantly copying data.
> > >
> > > The failover console indicates a full failover would take 20-25
> > > seconds (it's always jumping around).  We've never tested
> > it, but read
> > > many whitepapers and everyone seems to love it.  We also
> > use it for SQL.
> > >
> > > I will actually be testing the Exchange failover as I need to
> > > restructure my RAID arrays on my production server.  It will be
> > > interesting to see how it goes.  It's suppoesdly to be
> > seemless to the
> > > end user once the failover occurs.
> > >
> > > Replication is costly.  We have a server and JBOD sitting
> > pretty much
> > > idle, just waiting for the chance that the production box
> > might fail.
> > > In addition, this type of failover only occurs if the
> > production box
> > > becomes unreachable, such as it won't respond to a ping.
> > I'm not sure
> > > exactly what Double-Take monitors when doing
> > replication/failover for
> > > Exchange.
> > >
> > > If I loose the production stores on the JBOD array,
> > Double-Take won't
> > > fail over.  But since Double-Take is always copying changes, in
> > > theory, I can swap in the good JBOD and my production server should
> > > re-mount the stores properly.  Again, never tested that either.
> > >
> > > Replication gives you no benefits of increased power like a cluster
> > > could.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > Wesley Joyce
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:58 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Exchange 2003 Clustering or Replication (XOSoft WANSync
> > > Non-HA or HA)
> > >
> > > I am in the planning phases of an Exchange 2003 deployment.
> >  I would
> > > like opinions from the list as to what is a more cost effective and
> > > reliable solution for high availability for Exchange.  I am
> > hoping for
> > > real world experiences.
> > >
> > > 1.  Exchange Clustering
> > > 2.  Exchange replication through software (XOSoft WANSync
> > Non-HA or HA
> > > for
> > > example)
> > >
> > > In each scenario I would use two nodes, but in the first I
> > would need
> > > shared disks correct?  My understanding is that in the
> > second solution
> > > the nodes just need to be reachable to each other over the network.
> > >
> > > Some concerns I have in each scenario is how well those
> > configuration
> > > play with anti-virus/spam software as well as Exchange add ins like
> > > LCS or Sharepoint.
> > >
> > > I am hoping for feedback from people real world experiences with
> > > either or both solutions. Any URLs would be appreciated as well.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > Wesley Joyce, Network Administrator
> > > Network Operations, Information Technology Services
> > University of the
> > > Virgin Islands
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> > > you can't explain it simply, then you don't know it well enough. -
> > > Unknown."
> > >
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