I guess that was part of my point.  Granted I don't know the rule set in
this PIX, but I do know the PIX.  The standard talk is that the only way
to protect X is to place it behind the PIX.  But what is it doing in
this case, it opens a door up to the exchange server.  But what is the
traffic going through that door?  Does the PIX really know?  The last
time I checked all the PIX did was say you are packet X, on Port Y and
you want to go to address Z.  Hey I have a rule for that, come on down
you're the next contestant on go right to my server please.  How many of
us know how to manipulate a port 80 request, and if it's 443 that's even
better, it just an encrypted manipulation.

By putting this behind an application firewall (I only used ISA as it
has forms just for this type of thing) the actual packet is inspected,
and you have the added advantage of knowing that the visiting guest
never actually communicates with your Exchange FE Server.  With ISA that
OWA Session is terminated at the firewall, and the data is requested by
using a separate (we hope secure!) session to the Exchange Server.  All
the data is returned to the user via populated forms.

I am not trying to get into a bash the PIX conversation, I use them, and
for what they do, they do it well.  I do think however we are misleading
ourselves if we think that by putting a NAT rule in our PIX for access
to our exchange server for OWA access that we are going to be protected.
You can accomplish the same thing at your internet facing router.

Just my thought process on this.

Sense the original poster said this was for there new Exchange 2003
Server, I would suggest taking a look at www.isaserver.org they have an
entire area on putting OWA up behind an ISA Server. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Vander Kooi
Posted At: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:12 PM
Posted To: Exchange-List
Conversation: OWA redirect
Subject: RE: OWA redirect


All the PIX does is NAT the address and possibly change your port
request from 80 to 443. But if all you are using ISA for is scanning
your OWA requests I would argue that it is not a cost effective option.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA redirect

We setup a ISA Server with forms authentication and put it beside our
PIX, what good does the PIX really do for this type of deployment.  Ya,
we had fun running that up the flag pole, but by far the ISA-FE-BE setup
is the best way to go. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
Woods Posted At: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:36 AM Posted To:
Exchange-List
Conversation: OWA redirect
Subject: OWA redirect


Hi,

We've got a PIX with an outside IP pointing into one of the two new
Exchange
2003 servers. Users on this server can use the new OWA from the outside.
My mailbox resides on the other 2003 exchange server but it won't
re-direct for me. I just get page cannot be found. Any quick thoughts?

Thanks,
Tony

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