The support issue doesn't bother him?  MS may have its various faults
(perceived or otherwise) but at least they have a formal support
organization.  You can pay money to get resolution to any outages.  

I have no idea about scalix, but is there an actual company to call for
support when your server goes belly up at 3AM?  Or can the entire enterprise
messaging support plan be summarized as "let's hope some neckbeard takes a
break from playing Everquest to look at rec.linux.scalix and see my
question."?

Is there an opportunity to go above this person's head?  These are clearly
not business reasons used in making this decision.  His boss and peers might
be interested...

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jon
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??

Once again, religion.

He also has his sights on dumping 2,000 Windows clients, and replacing
our enterprise-wide Oracle database system (which we have been on for
almost 20 years) with an open source version.

It is, on one level, all very entertaining. Our customer information
system (for 1,500,000 customers)? Port it to an open source application
written by a guy in Spain with no customers and no one on board who
speaks English. I kid you not.

Jon


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Kimball, Kelly
Posted At: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:11 AM
Posted To: exch list
Conversation: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??
Subject: RE: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Of all things MS to throw
out, why on earth would it be Exchange, arguably one of the few things
MS got right. 


-----Original Message-----
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Martin, Jon
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??

Why? Religion.

He wants Exchange out of here. Added functionality is not the issue.
System stability is not the issue. Money is not the issue. Exchange is
bought and paid for. Scalix will cost $130,000 up front and $50,000 per
year thereafter. He does not care. Not my call - the decision is coming
from three levels of management up, and is not supported by the layers
in between or me. In the end that will not matter.

Finding some significant loss of end-user functionality might matter. We
currently have 2,000 reasonably happy Outlook 2003 users. But if they
are not really going to know the difference, it would appear to be a
done deal.

Jon


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Scharff
Posted At: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:36 AM
Posted To: exch list
Conversation: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??
Subject: RE: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??

HP OpenMail? So they want to move away from bought and paid for Exchange
to Scalix why? I understand they don't like Microsoft, what
functionality do they think this new platform is going to get them? But
choice is good, if they want to buy Scalix licenses and migrate I say go
for it. If they decide to move back, I know a company which has migrated
millions of seats from HP OpenMail/Samsung Contact/Scalix and would be
happy to pick up the work. 

-- 
Chris Scharff
Messaging Services Architect
MessageOne
512.652.4500



EMS Email Continuity: Exchange may be down, but e-mail is still up. 
http://www.messageone.com/email-continuity/


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Martin, Jon
Posted At: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:19 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??
Subject: Scalix: Any Glaring Problems??

Long time no post . . .

We're under new management. New management hates MS and wants to convert
our Exchange 2003 system to Scalix. (Scalix, for those who have not
heard about it, is a sorta-open-source email/calendaring system that
runs on Linux and allows Outlook to connect and maintain something close
to full functionality.)

So far in my research I have not found any glaring technical or
functional reasons to fight this switch. Does anyone here have any
experience with Scalix and/or know of any significant non-OS-religious
reasons that Scalix is a bad idea? I am particularly interested in any
known loss of user functionality running Outlook on Scalix.

Many thanks . . .


Jon



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