FWIW - I have 120 remote sites with mostly cable and DSL speeds.  I have
1500 mailboxes hosted on 1 single Exchange 2003 Server, with a few
hundred gigs of mail split across multiple stores. 

All remote users connect using RPC over HTTPS using Outlook 2003 in
cached mode. To a dedicated front-end server that does nothin but RPC
over HTTPS connections, OWA, SMTP, and IMAP4.  There are no performance
issues anywhere.  The front-end server has NO mailboxes, all those are
on the single backend server referenced above.

I deployed this infrastructure about 2 month after Exchange 2003 went
gold, but it was with less users back then.  I'm still using the same
Exchange server hardware as I deployed back then as well, no upgrades of
any kind.

The advent of RPC over HTTPS has all but eliminated the need to have
individual exchange server at sites for small groups of users.  

If my IT infrastructure is centralized, I wouldn't put a server at a
remote site unless I was decentralizing/regionalizing my entire
infrastructure, or it was a LARGE site (I'm talking many many hundreds
of users) and I saw performance being degraded for them, and of course,
disaster recovery site.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Pochedley
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Strategy for remote office?

We've got two remote sites with 25+ Exchange users, plus a more than a
dozen smaller sites with less.  No troubles hosting them all from our
HQ.  All of them have T1 speed MPLS links with a dual T1 here at the
head end.  

Both of the larger sites had their own Exchange 5.5 servers at one
point.  There was some initial grumbling when we told them they were
losing their email servers.  The managers at the sites were told we
would be open to re-implementing servers on site if there were problems.
But it's been over 3 years now and we've _never_ looked back. 

Another thing to consider: By consolidating you now only have one server
that ever needs upgraded.  Thinking of going to Exchange 2007?  Only
need to do it once, everyone gets the benefits.   

The money you save in maintenance and Exchange server licensing could be
put toward a WAN acceleration solution (Riverbed, packeteer, etc).  Then
you would not have to worry so much about 25 people downloading a 10MB
file from HQ and would get better WAN performance for whatever else
you've got going over the WAN as well...

There's no wrong way to do it...  Just another angle to think about.....

Joe P

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Strategy for remote office?

Approx 25 mailboxes.

Their existing server is a Windows 2000 DC/GC.

There are already CA's in place from when we (the main site) migrated
from 5.5 to 2003.

I'm thinking that the Pro of having a box down there is naturally that
if someone sends a single 10mb file to all 25 people it's got to get
there once vs. 25 times over a slow (T1 equivalent) link?

The box is already down there and is a good spec Proliant with plenty of
RAM/Disk/Redundancy, it's not the stereotypical "old PC stuck in a
cupboard" that some branch offices have.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Pochedley
Sent: 27 April 2007 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration Strategy for remote office?

You say it's a "small site"... How small is small?  10 users, 50 users,
100 users, 1000 users?  (Small it relative depending on the size of your
org.)

Just based on the little info you've presented, it sounds like
consolidation would be a good thing.   Bring the Exchange users into the
central server...  Use cached mode in Outlook.   Simplify management,
simplify infrastructure, reduce costs (licensing and management time),
etc...

What's the WAN link between your sites (speed and reliability)?  Are you
going to overload the WAN link? Is the WAN link it's reliable enough?
If the answer is No to both, seriously consider consolidation...  7gig's
isn't bad,  That's fine for a single DB in an OU... Unless you're
running close to the 75 GB limit of Exchange 2003 Standard edition or
something?  

Joe P

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Hutchings
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Migration Strategy for remote office?

Folks I wondered if I could pick your collective brains on a migration
strategy for a remote office.

They have a single Windows 2000 server, which is a file server, DC and
Exchange 5.5 Server, we're already on 2003.

Whilst it works adequately I could do with getting rid of 5.5 for all
the obvious reasons, and I'm unsure of the best way of doing it.

As I see it my options are:

Upgrade in-place from 5.5 to 2000 then to 2003.
Stick in a box, add a 2003 server to their AG, migrate their mailboxes,
remove the 5.5 install, install 2003 on it, migrate them back.
Move their mail to the main site server (even with cached mode this
sounds a no-no as they have a 7gb or so store).
Do something with Virtual Server/VMWare (as it's only a very small
site).

What I can't do is put a second server in at that site as anything other
than a temporary measure during any migration.

I'd really appreciate any input or suggestions.

Cheers,
Paul

Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378
Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
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