There's actually an easier way...as long as the policy for @msmail isn't  the 
default Enterprise RUP address, just uncheck the box in the RUP entry that 
reads 'Exchange is authoritative for this domain' - Exchange will then go back 
to DNS and try MX records...for any address on that domain not listed in the 
directory.  

So the MX would have to still point to Postfix for internal resolution...but 
that might be less complex to changing the Postfix MTA...

--James

-----Original Message-----
From: "Fred Skrotzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: 5/11/07 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

 Ok here is the EXACT deal.

Initial environment:

Linux box using postfix, doing av and spam scanning then forwarding on
to internal exchange box;
Exchange box running exchange 2000;

Upgrade time, current exchange box sucks and we are replacing the
hardware so look at doing a half swing approach to install a new box
running exchange 2003 on new hardware.

Exchange 2000 box is called msmail
New exchange 2003 box is called mail1

So outside mail comes in to the Linux box, which accepts e-mail in for
<user>@examples.com AV scan and spam ranking, then was forwarding to
<user>@msmail.example.com (this is sending e-mail to the SERVER address
which is allowed).  Now in the ESM (before adding 2003) the previous
admin created the following e-mail address policies smtp: example.com,
smtp:msmail.example.com.  So the server was accepting mail that was
addressed as either which is what we needed.

Now when you add in exchange 2003.  So it picked up on this policy and
said I'll accept for both also.  Problem is once I moved a mailbox from
msmail to mail1 I could also get mail delivered to the accounts using
mail1 just not from mail1 to msmail.  (See the issue yet?).  The default
e-mail policy was saying you are msmail and when it checked the account
didn't exist localy but was forwarding back localy...  That was my
issue.

So we had to go into postfix and change how it was forwarding mail from
using a internal e-mail address to a site redirect which preserved the
external e-mail address of <user>@example.com and then removed the use
of msmail.example.com from the e-mail address properties and things now
work the way they are supposed to.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
Skrotzki
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Ok I have it fixed and I'll document it up in a bit and send it to the
list so everybody understands.

I'll tell you it is interesting and makes since once you understand it
all (Linux front end and a exchange upgrade using swing method to
move)..  So look for a update on it when I can get 15 minutes to write
it up.  I now have to rush and do the moves I promised to have done last
night and this morning...

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
Skrotzki
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

no it is a external to internal ateway that does AV and spam scanning
for inbound only. The two exchange servers can talk directly.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Wells, James Arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:13 am
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>Reply-To:
"Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>

I can't remember if you mentioned...but is mail routing through the
Linux box for either of the two mailbox servers outbound delivery?

Or are there security restrictions for SMTP delivery on the Exch 2000
server?

--James

-----Original Message-----
From: "Fred Skrotzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: 5/11/07 5:52 AM
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Ok our firewall is doing the NAT for each box (Pix 515e).  Each box has
a Single NIC with a Single assigned IP that is a internal Private IP
(172.18.0.x). 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

I recommend using one NIC.  While I'm not sure that's your problem,
enough people post with their multihoming problems to make me believe it
is until otherwise proven.  Couldn't your NAT work just as well with an
internal NIC as an external one?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year! 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
Skrotzki
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

What do you recommend?  I need to get the 2003 server to send mail back
to the 2000 server without getting a NDR. (The other way works) which is
great.
I just need this to somehow work until I can get all users moved (This
process is scheduled to take 5 days due to peoples work schedules and
access).  After that we are dumping the 2000 server.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Yikes!  In general, multihoming Exchange servers results in
unpredictable routing issues like you're seeing.  I recommend that you
dump that configuration.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year! 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
Skrotzki
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Yes both servers are in the Same Exchange Organization and
administrative group. 

Neither server has a Smart host defined.  Both servers are on the same
subnet (2 ip's right next to each other and can see each other).  Each
has a dedicated external IP assigned in the firewall so they can send
directly out with valid reverse records defined.

In advanced delivery the only fields defined are: Masquerade domain:
Example.com, (Really our base domain and FQDN on 2000 is
msmail.example.com and 2003 is defined as mail1.example.com.

We do NOT have a SMTP connector created using any smart host.  We are in
total DNS control of our IP space so don't need to use smart (Also have
BIG fat pipe).

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Please confirm that both servers are in the same Exchange organization
and administrative group or not.

Have you configured the "smart host" field in the SMTP virtual servers'
properties on either server?  If so, create an SMTP Connector, configure
smart hosting there, and clear that field on all virtual servers.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Time Magazine's Person of the Year! 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred
Skrotzki
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Migration (2000->2003) issue.

Ok I'm missing something simple here..

Here is the layout.  Mail come in to a Linux server that does some
filtering for spam, etc.  Then takes valid e-mail and forwards to a
exchange 2000 server.  This server is built on a POC whitebox from old
admin (called
msmail) that we can't upgrade.  I've deployed a new Exchange 2003 server
(called mail1) into the domain and moved 3 test mailboxes using the
exchange move mailbox exchange option in users and computers.  Anybody
external and/or internal can send to the three moved mailboxes and they
get the mail.
The moved mail boxes can send mail to anybody EXCEPT those on the old
server.  We get NDR's.  Each users e-mail addresses are set to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as the default SMTP and [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a
secondary smtp so mail from the Linux box get's accepted.


It will take me about a week to move each user with there permission
from one s


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