As I understand how things work the behavior you describe is normal.  The
sending of the message is a completely separate event from the placing of
the message in Sent Items.  Say you send a message that's over the message
size limit.  First Outlook sends the message, then it puts it in Sent Items.
The Exchange Server determines that the message is over the limit, be it a
user-based size limit, or some other size limit farther down the line, at
which point the message is bounced.

Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

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Yes, is that normal Outlook/Exchange behaviour?  I don't want 50mb messages
in the store at all, hence investigating mailbox/message size restrictions,
and with message size limits in particular they seem completely pointless if
messages exceeding the limit can be sent and still go to someone's Sent
Items consuming space despite having gone absolutely nowhere because the
policy stops them being delivered.  

Surely it should say something when you hit "Send" or it first attempts to
save as draft?

My question is have I missed something obvious or is this normal?

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Do you have a question?

Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-----Original Message-----
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Hutchings
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Bizarre!  Empty message in my Sent Items too so now I have to start again.

Anyway, I'm experimenting with mailbox restrictions, and message size
restrictions, so I configured a test user with a "Don't Allow Send"
mailbox limit (which their account exceeds), and a 50kb sent message size
limit.

It appears that they can still send small text messages regardless, and
if/when they try and send a 20mb file, whilst it doesn't go to the recipient
and the sender gets an Undeliverable, it does go into their Sent Items
taking up space - I'd expect it to be bounced whilst in the Outbox or at the
point of hitting "Send"?

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Subject: RE: Exchange 2003/Outlook and Message/Mailbox Limits?

Yes?

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