That's a sticky wicket...

Regards,

Don Guyer
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:47 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

500 pst's from multiple sites with users involved, I think I would find a new 
job first.  The problem we have moving mailbox's is I'm told the current cloud 
host says they won't give us a logon that has full access to all our mailboxes. 
 So that means we have to get everyone's passwords or reset the mailbox 
password before we move it.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:35 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

That is what I consider a "worst choice" scenario.  SOMETIMES it may be 
necessary. Usually, it is not.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Haluška Andrej
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:29 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

You can also create the mailboxes in advance, test it, redirect new emails to 
the new server and move the data via PST. When I did this last time (between 
two independent environments, no trust possible) we were able to move 120GB of 
data (300+ mailboxes) in 14 hours.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:13 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

Well that just made my day, actually month, maybe rest of year.  So we just 
have to deal with ongoing mail which could be a big deal with this much data to 
move.  Perhaps we can script a new contact for every user and set it to forward 
as the mailbox move is started.  I'm sure it's covered in the stuff you told me 
to look up.
Thanks Michael!

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:00 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

New-MoveRequest and New-MigrationBatch authenticate just like a user and move 
the mailboxes. You do have to specify an account that can open the mailbox. If 
you have an admin account for the tenant use that, otherwise you can do a 
unique credential per mailbox.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:55 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

Forgive my ignorance but how do you move mailboxes like that if the existing 
server isn't part of AD.  I've done migrations before between server versions 
but never with non-AD integrated server you can't set a trust up with.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:46 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

You do exactly the same thing that you would do for onboarding Exchange 2010 or 
Exchange 2013 to Office 365. :)

Identify the mailboxes, use New-MoveRequest or New-MigrationBatch. Read up on 
those.

The most challenging thing is to deal with ongoing email during the migration 
process. One server or the other has to be "master" and if a particular user is 
not present on one server it must be forwarded to the other. Another common 
Office 365 issue for Staged Exchange Migrations. You can read up on those 
solutions also.

This is why you don't find much unique data - it's the same.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:33 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

Sorry, first time doing this, left out some important info.  Moving from hosted 
exchange, non-AD integrated.  About 500 users all office 2010, most in the 
Midwest scattered across 5 states but also India, Australia, etc.  Same domain 
will be used after migration as currently.  At first it seems pretty simple to 
work up instructions for the users to add their new account and move data from 
hosted to new.  Could probably be scripted also.  I keep thinking someone has 
had to have done this before and there's all kinds of things I'm not thinking 
of.  I have a smart team to work with but I'm the only admin that has any 
Exchange experience and hosts his own mail.
Thanks

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:57 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

What is the platform being used by the third party host?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:14 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [Exchange] Best Practices/Steps for Exchange Cloud to On Premises

I'm Googling around for this and all I get is office365 articles.  How to 
coexist, how to migrate to 365.  Maybe I'm not digging far enough in to the 
results.  Our goal is to migrate users from a 3rd party host currently being 
used to a new in house 2013 environment.   I know it seems counterintuitive to 
the world direction but powers that be have decided there's a significant cost 
savings considering all the other licensing we are doing and the # of users.
Thanks

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