Would I troubleshoot dag and from the same way?

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On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:07 PM, "Michael B. Smith" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Perhaps change the subject?

Have you looked at the event log?

Have you looked at the cluster log?

Have you looked at the FC log?

What have you done beside run a report?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Exchange] DAG & DPM

Why would my quorum start to fail??
Exchange DAG Health Check Report

Exchange Server Database Availability Group health check results as of Monday, 
July 28, 2014 9:45:38 PM

Database Availability Group IMCU-DAG Health Summary:
Database

Mounted on

Preference

Total Copies

Healthy Copies

Unhealthy Copies

Healthy Queues

Unhealthy Queues

Lagged Queues

Healthy Indexes

Unhealthy Indexes

DB-Bronze

081013VMEXCHB1

1

3

3

0

3

0

0

3

0

DB-Gold

081013VMEXCHB1

1

3

3

0

3

0

0

3

0

DB-Platinum

081013VMEXCHB2

1

3

3

0

3

0

0

3

0

DB-Silver

081013VMEXCHB2

1

3

3

0

3

0

0

3

0

DB-Unlimited

081013VMEXCHB1

1

3

3

0

3

0

0

3

0


Database Availability Group IMCU-DAG Health Details:
Database Copy

Database Name

Mailbox Server

Activation Preference

Status

Copy Queue

Replay Queue

Replay Lagged

Truncation Lagged

Content Index

DB-Bronze\081013VMEXCHB1

DB-Bronze

081013VMEXCHB1

1

Mounted

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Bronze\081013VMEXCHB2

DB-Bronze

081013VMEXCHB2

2

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Bronze\081013VMEXCHDR

DB-Bronze

081013VMEXCHDR

3

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Gold\081013VMEXCHB1

DB-Gold

081013VMEXCHB1

1

Mounted

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Gold\081013VMEXCHB2

DB-Gold

081013VMEXCHB2

2

Healthy

0

1

False

False

Healthy

DB-Gold\081013VMEXCHDR

DB-Gold

081013VMEXCHDR

3

Healthy

0

1

False

False

Healthy

DB-Platinum\081013VMEXCHB2

DB-Platinum

081013VMEXCHB2

1

Mounted

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Platinum\081013VMEXCHB1

DB-Platinum

081013VMEXCHB1

2

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Platinum\081013VMEXCHDR

DB-Platinum

081013VMEXCHDR

3

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Silver\081013VMEXCHB1

DB-Silver

081013VMEXCHB1

2

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Silver\081013VMEXCHB2

DB-Silver

081013VMEXCHB2

1

Mounted

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Silver\081013VMEXCHDR

DB-Silver

081013VMEXCHDR

3

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Unlimited\081013VMEXCHB1

DB-Unlimited

081013VMEXCHB1

1

Mounted

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Unlimited\081013VMEXCHB2

DB-Unlimited

081013VMEXCHB2

2

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy

DB-Unlimited\081013VMEXCHDR

DB-Unlimited

081013VMEXCHDR

3

Healthy

0

0

False

False

Healthy


Database Availability Group IMCU-DAG Member Health:
Server

Cluster Service

Replay Service

Active Manager

Tasks RPC Listener

TCP Listener

DAG Members Up

Cluster Network

Quorum Group

File Share Quorum

DB Copy Suspended

DB Initializing

DB Disconnected

DB Log Copy Keeping Up

DB Log Replay Keeping Up

081013VMEXCHB1

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

*FAILED*

n/a

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

081013VMEXCHB2

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

*FAILED*

n/a

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

081013VMEXCHDR

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

*FAILED*

n/a

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed

Passed




From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:43 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Exchange] DAG & DPM

There is almost always a reason. :)

Some of them take longer to figure out than others. You must consolidate 
information from event logs, the DPM logs, and the crimson log.

Also, DPM separates some capabilities that you may consider part of the 
“backup” responsibility to the OS (e.g., dedupe – that is an OS responsibility).

I’ve been very happy with DPM, but getting it to be stable in a complex 
environment can take some work. You can figure it out by yourself, with a 
consultant, or with MSFT support.

To Dan’s original question… there are two different Exchange VSS writers – one 
for the replica and one for the primary. They both have to be working properly.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:06 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Exchange] DAG & DPM

Oh yeah, I REALLY dislike how DPM is not very helpful when it runs into 
problems.

"There is a problem with VSS on the source machine."
________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Exchange] DAG & DPM
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 20:03:13 +0000
I would like to follow this convo as well.
I continue to get DPM errors but no real reason that I can figure?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Exchange] DAG & DPM

I inherited this setup and am just trying to make heads or tails of the 
continuing problems (mostly "replica out of sync").

How does DPM handle the log files in a DAG? Does it only backup the active DB 
and... then what? I've read two books thus far on DPM and Exchange and neither 
went into the actual workings under the hood; mostly screen shots of how to set 
this or that up.

Had a situation where a backup kept failing for no good reason I could see. Had 
to failover the DB to it's partner (unrelated) and all of a sudden the logs 
cleared.
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