There's a difference between your post and the one Eric made though. Your
post well thought out with both legitimate criticism and possible
resolutions. Eric was just whining.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Nimda
>
>
> Sure I make my living supporting Microsoft's software too but
> you do have to
> admit that there are some "features" in outlook and many
> other Microsoft
> products that seemed like a good thing at the time but only
> make our lives
> entertaining. Personally I see no need for
> HTML/scripting/vbs/ActiveX in
> e-mails. Most of these mass mailers use well known
> holes/bugs in Outlook/OE
> to replicate. If Outlook only supplied plain text or only
> allowed basic
> HTML without all the fancy scripting then it would be ok.
> The fact that
> viewing an e-mail via the preview panel will trigger the
> virus/worm is dumb.
> Or how about the new "feature" found in OE 6.0 what will run,
> under certain
> conditions, scripting in a plain text e-mail. The other
> option I can think
> of is to enhance Windows Update to always be on and for
> Microsoft to release
> all patches via that web site (IIS, Exchange, Server,
> Workstation, etc). So
> all Windows users will have the current up to date software. The main
> problem that I see is that most system aren't patched because
> the admins or
> home user is lazy or doesn't know any better. I think it was Russ in
> NTBugTraq that did a search on Microsoft's site for IIS
> patches and found 3
> different repositories for patches and all 3 of them had
> different number of
> patches. So an admin hits one of the pages and downloads all
> the patches
> that he/she sees thinking that's all the needed updates. But
> the system may
> still be missing a few very important security updates that
> the page failed
> to mention.
>
> But in the end we can do only two things. One sit back and
> watch as other
> non-patched systems infect more non-patched systems or two
> get management
> jobs at Microsoft and change some of their "features". Oh
> yes, and as Kevin
> says you can always use something else (many do).
>
> Jeremy Newell
> Systems Technician
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: September 20, 2001 2:21 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Nimda
> >
> >
> > Well then why work with it.. Why be on this list? Why even
> > post to it??
> > We here make our livings based on there software and don't
> really like
> > crap comments like that. Go shit in some else's back yard. We
> > here don't
> > want to hear your crap.....
> >
> > Period.
> >
> > Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Romero, Eric
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Nimda
> >
> >
> > Microsoft softwar is bad!
> >
> > period!
> > --er
>
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