Ummm... Brian never said that he runs it against the Exchange folders. What
the poor guy is trying to say is he's running it. If he's got it all
configured correctly it won't do any harm. We've been running NetShield AV
on our Multi-Purpose branch office servers that have Exchange on it for
years.
S./
<DEMO>
*wind blows*
why would you want to burden your Exchange CPUs with unnecessary apps? a
good admin can configure the server secure enough so it doesn't need a file
based scanner
*wind blows*
there's nothing wrong with being extra cautious. a good admin can configure
the file based AV so it doesn't impact Exchange
</DEMO>
See both sound good.
Moral of the story: you need a good admin no matter what you want to do.
Then you won't have any problems.
Moral of the Moral of the story: a good admin is a myth.
Moral of the Moral of the Moral of the story: everybody's screwed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
You NEVER want to use a file based scanner on the Exchange folders in
the server.. That is a very bad idea. You just don't do that period. If
you want more protection then use extension blocking. File scanner your
exchange server will cause nothing but problems and now help at all..
Why do you think there is a separate product for exchange? Never mind..
Don will finish this one better then I can..
You should have left it you being wrong.
Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
Don,
Hi!
What I don't want is to make this as argument. I am just saying that I
would run File Based A/V product to increase the protection of Exchange
server. You can't really say your server is bullet proof. Maybe it is
at the time, but what if/when there's a new threat for security holes.
A/V may not be able to protect it, but it certainly may decrease the
chance of getting infected (IMO). You think that file based A/V
products corrupt Exchange database? Well, Not if people install it
properly and run it properly. Exchange Virus product companies support
File Based A/V products. Microsoft does not say you can not install
File Based A/V products on Exchange server, do they? If they do, please
let me know.
If you are happy with not running file based A/V products on your
Exchange server, that's okay with me. I am just happy running file
based A/V product along email virus product on my Exchange server. And
this is supported by my A/V vendor.
Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
>
>
> Well, unless you have some rebuttal to prove me otherwise...
> Please enlighten me if there is something I'm missing. I'd
> really like to know...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
>
>
> You are right and I am wrong. Happy?
>
> Brian
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:26 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> >
> >
> > Ummmm... What the hell does having IIS on a server without
> file based
> > virus scanning have to do with anything?
> >
> > Case in point, I have an E2K server with IIS 5.0 with all of the
> > necessary patches and updates. What the hell is a file
> based scanner
> > going to do for me that my email virus scanner wouldn't? Are you
> > trying to tell these poor souls that the nimda virus would not have
> > infected
> > them if they had a file based scanner? Bzzztt.... WRONG ANSWER!
> >
> > He who knows how to build, configure and secure a server
> doesn't need
> > a file based scanner on their exchange server.
> > The virus in this particular case came through either an
> > email or an infected web page. If the admin is anywhere near
> > competent and has his/her server built correctly, the virus
> > cannot be activated. Now if said admin is ignorant and
> > doesn't have a properly configured server... They deserve
> > what they get!
> >
> > Come back later and talk to us when your exchange install
> has become
> > corrupted due to your file based scanner...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:14 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> >
> >
> > And maybe you won't install IIS 5.0 on Windows 2000
> servers??? Nimda
> > was able to infect IIS servers using IIS server as well. I am not
> > forcing you or missy to install the A/V on your own servers. It's
> > your own choice.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Tom Meunier
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:04 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > >
> > >
> > > ...or maybe she won't create PUBLICALLY ACCESSIBLE SHARES on an
> > > Exchange box, perhaps. Or browse the web or read her
> email from it.
> > >
> > > You identify your points of possible infection, and you
> > protect them.
> > > I don't need to put mousetraps in my gasoline tank, because
> > I'm fairly
> > > certain that they'll never be able to get in there.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:01 AM
> > > > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > > > Conversation: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > > > Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you will think differently after you have one
> of Exchange
> > > > server infected by virus (not that I am wishing for it,
> I hope it
> > > > never happens!!!). Not having any A/V product except Exchange
> > > > server is a past thing as new virus comes out all the
> > time with more
> > > damage it can
> > > > do to a workstation or a server, IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Ko
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of missy
> > > > > koslosky
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:31 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Re: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What's he risking by not having file-based A/V on his Exchange
> > > > > server? There shouldn't be anything other than
> Exchange on the
> > > > > server, so Antigen should protect his server quite nicely.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not a proponent of file-based scanners on servers
> > that aren't
> > > > > file servers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Missy
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Brian Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:28 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are risking a lot by not putting Antivirus
> software on your
> > > > > server. We've been running ScanMail and ServerProtect on our
> > > > > Exchange server for a while w/o any problem. We did exclude
> > > > > ScanMail and Exchange folders from scanning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> > Of Steven
> > > > > > Plender
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 1:28 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are currently using Antigen Anti-virus software on
> > all of our
> >
> > > > > > Exchange servers. We have not used any other anti-virus
> > > > software to
> > > > > > protect the server or operating system itself. Three
> > > > years ago when
> > > > > > the Exchange systems were being installed it was
> > known that file
> >
> > > > > > scanning anti-virus software could or would corrupt
> > > > > information store
> > > > > > files and perhaps log files as well. The architect
> > > > > recommended that no
> > > > > > anti-virus software be installed at that time. Desktops
> > > and other
> > > > > > servers are protected with file scanning anti-virus
> > > software which
> > > > > > is updated nightly. We have been asked / directed
> to install
> > > > > > server file scanning software (NAI) on our Exchange
> > > servers. This
> > > > > > weekend I have been running it in the lab on an
> > Exchange server
> > > > > > and have excluded the partition with the information
> > > store and the
> > > > > > partition with the log files. Can you tell me what the
> > > consensus
> > > > > > is on this issue and do you run server anti-virus
> > > software along
> > > > > > with Exchange aware anti-virus software. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Plender
> > > > > > RBC DS
> > > > > >
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