HEHE -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network
Yeah my boss is a die-hard Novell guy too. Too bad his boss is listening to me... ;o) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Ya, we had major problems with NAV NLM and a CDtower NLM when I first started here - they did not like each other at all. They finally fixed the prob. Our Novell server runs pretty well. NAV seems to spike the processor pretty hard at times. If it remains at 100% usage for a period of time it will crash. As it did a few days ago when we kicked off a manual virus scan, and it is a Proliant 5500! But, it had been up well over a year. All it does is file/print services. Still at 4.10 :-) The only 3rd party NLMs are NAV and a ProComm tower NLM (CD tower connected by ethernet) I was just noticing the other day how if I have rconsole open and type anything my processor goes to 100% on my pc. Or if I have it on a screen that constantly updates like monitor or NAV. I have a very new pc with W2K Pro. NWADMIN is also a hog. Makes WinAMP skip! :-) I don't see us getting rid of Novell because our manager is a die-hard novell guy... :( He can't wait to go to NW6 and start controlling NT from it. And start using web services, et c on it. {HELP!} All our app servers/Email/etc are NT/2000 Barry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network It is all due to Poorly written NLMS by a vendor.. The core is pretty good. But NLM was so complicated to write in, no one did it properly... Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ All spelling and Factual errors are the fault of Bob Barker ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This space has been rented by: Http://www.tiggercam.co.uk For all your tigger needs You 2 can rent this space if you need it. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network How so... I'll be my W2K servers stay up longer than those POS Novell servers. The Novell boxes here seem to puke about daily due to some problem. What a crock! I remember when Novell used to claim stability. I don't see it anymore... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Now that was funny -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent: October 2, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network >>Tis OK, in a couple of months I will be doing a full scale migration from anything related to Novell to W2K, ADS, and E2K. >>That should solve any administration and functionality issues I have. Not to mention any sleepless nights. -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 02 October 2001 15:15 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Exchange on a Netware network Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I love opening "cans of worms"! Now granted, I've only got back into working with Novell at my latest gig and that's been for almost 3 months now. However, I can tell you in my short lived experience... It SUCKS and badly! Now I suppose, if we weren't running Nix, Linux, and NT here it wouldn't be soo bad, but it is garbage for administration. At least with W2K, I can add all the snap-ins to one MMC and manage the entire network from one console it that's why you think NWAdmin is better. I think the fact that I still have to deal with IPX crap is even more BS, WTF is up with that. Granted, we still have one bindery server, but the rest of these POS's do not need that crap a$$ protocol running on a network. Oh, let's not forget the fubared client piece that you have to be careful of which client to load because Novell based apps won't run under certain versions of the client. What a friggin joke!! I like Novell in their 3.x days and even in the 4.x days, but since I've had the pleasure of not looking at it for a couple of years... I am soooo thankful. Tis OK, in a couple of months I will be doing a full scale migration from anything related to Novell to W2K, ADS, and E2K. That should solve any administration and functionality issues I have. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Don you love opening cans of worms eh? Scalability. Please NDS out scales AD anytime, anywhere. That's why people like CNN, Universities and huge corps are using AD right? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: October 2, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network I think NWAdmin SUCKS! I can do way more with AD and the MMC. It isn't about what I'm used to because I'm used to both, I just happen to like one better than the other. Not to mention, the scalability... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Don I use MS way more then Netware today but if you are misleading people by telling them that the mmc and AD plugins are easier to use then nwadmin or console one then you MUST be smoking crack. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: October 2, 2001 12:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network One issue that I am aware of is that ADS and NDS do not mix so I would imagine that would complicate things. My company is running NDS as well, but I'm fixing to migrate all the CRAP to W2K, ADS, and E2K and be gone with NetWare nastiness for good. Did I mention I hate NetWare and the odd thing about it is that was the first NOS I certified in. It's garbage... ADS is way better from an administration standpoint. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rocky Stefano Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange on a Netware network Stay with GroupWise 6 and Zenworks not Managewise. Managewise functionality was rolled into Zenworks anyways. GroupWise integrates directly with NDS the way Exchange does with W2K. If they have Netware servers they should stick with GW -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Jameson Sent: October 1, 2001 8:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange on a Netware network I have a client running Netware 5.1 with 250 win2k client pc's and 125 apple macs. We are recommending management software and email. I personally advise against Novell at this moment and wish to push the exchange 2000 in the NetWare network in addition to Intel LANDesk instead of Novell's manage wise. Has anyone had good success marrying exchange 2000 into a NetWare environment or even experience with Intel's LANDesk? Will exchange work at a member on it's own 2000 platform or must there also be the 2000 domain controller? It appears Tivoli or open view did not support the Apple Mac's but LANDesk did which is the reason for that choice. Unfortunately, if the client wishes to remain a Novell shop, they will probably opt for the second choice which is GroupWise and manage wise running both on NetWare. 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