Yea I know it's been a royal pain in the a$$ over here.  They want something
done but won't fully upgrade us to 2000 to set this up the right way.  Well
what I have tested is  I have there 2k and exch2k server on one subnet.  I
have our nt 4.0 and our Exchange 5.5 on another subnet.  I have WINS
replicating between the to sites.  I setup a 2 way ADC and have gotten
information to tranfer from both sites.  But when I bring down the Exchang
2K from their AD (which removes it out of AD)  and reinstall it into their
AD but into our Organization, it prompts me to either create a new org.  Or
join an existing org.  Which when I do that places their server in the same
site as ours.  Which I think plainly sucks.  Just cause of the fact that
Management is pushing to get something done.  And it's not going to get done
the right way.  I can send email between the 2 sites just fine, calendar
appts are working fine.  

But my main concern is that since their 2nd server was removed improperly
that it will cause a problem with removing all AD entries for Exchange?
Does that make any sense?  If not I apologize.

Thanks,

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


Nope cannot do that.. Unless you want to use some sort of connector.. 2
AD= 2 totally separate servers. You will need a connector to make it
work and it will not work like you want it to.

Here is what I see. You bought a new company and need to merge there
data into your data. I would make that happen like this

-Exmerge out all there data
-Change your Email address policy to have there domain addresses for all
users as the secondary address
-Enter in all there users in your domain
-Exmerge in all there users email

Then if you want to have an additional exchange server you can build
there old one as a new on in your domain and move mail boxes. I really
have no clue what you are thinking about doing???

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


I don't think there's any way you can do that - you have two separate
forests, which means two separate schema, which means Exchange can't be
in both (the Orgs won't cross that boundary). You may be able to create
trusts between the two forests, but you will not be able to have the
same organization for Exchange.

John Ryan
dhs&associatesinc. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


I want to move the users like you said.  But when wer re-setup the new
Exchange 2K we are going to set it up in their AD and place the server
into our Organization.  Which sucks but that's the way we have to do it
for now since we are under a time crunch.  So what I need to know is,
since that one server was removed improperly, when I go to re-setup the
new server is the old Exchange information still going to reside in the
AD?  And if so, how am I going to rid that from AD?

Thanks,

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


What information are you looking to move??? Users are all you really
need, and then the email addresses

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


Does the AD Migration Tool give you the option to move Exchange
information out of the AD?  Cause I think our main concern is getting
the Exchange information out of AD.  So we can setup this new server in
their AD but in our Organization.  Does any tool offer that?  It would
be simple if their lame a$$'$ didn't bring that one server down
improperly.  The first server in a site is the one that adds all the
Exchange info to the Schema, if the server that was removed improperly
that is still going to reside in the schema correct?  How could we get
that out?

Thanks,

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bowles, John L. 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


And this takes all their information from Calendar items, inbox,
subfolders etc?

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
W: 240.453.3575
C:  301.938.6294
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


With Exmerge you can Rip out all there mail data into PST files that
named after the user. Then you manually create new users on your domain
with the same names. Or if there a great number you can move them with
the ADMT [1]

[1] not the simplest tool to use but it works great [2]
[2] Hi Don [3]
[3] My new Neighobor

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


Ok, right now we don't have any connections with them at all.  So I'm
curious (sorry if I sound ingnorant but I've never used Exmerge) how can
I pull their information to ours if we have no kind of connection to
these people?  Basically we want to eventuallly move their Server into
our Organization so we can manage their Exchange box. Cause right now we
they are an Org and we are an Org.  So we want to uninstall their
Exchange server and install it into our Org. Right now we are running
Exchange 5.5 and they are running Exch2K.  After we move them into our
Org we are going to upgrade to Exch2K.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


I am saying Rip out the data as is and Add it to you own. If you need to
recover there Exchange install then you might want to try a setup
/disasterrecovery option on a box with the same name as there Fu@sked up
[1] exchange server. That should pull all the data and setting out of AD
where they are stored.

Maybe I am missing what  you are trying to do??

[1] Hi Don!

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


So you are telling me that using any one of those methods will prevent
me when re-setting up their Exchange server to be able to run the setup
seemlessly?  

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Question


USE PSTS [1], and ADMT [2]

[1] Exmerge
[2] AD Migration tool [3]
[3] you can download it from Microsoft [4]
[4] you will need to read the Q to set it up correctly [5]
[5] Hi Sherry [6]
[6] Hi William [7]
[7] And yes you are a guru

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K Question


All,
 
Ok, I have this company that we just acquired.  They are a very small
company.  They are running Win2K and Exch2K.  They had 2 Exchange
servers in their site.  Well them being retards removed one of the
servers improperly. They basically just shut the machine off and wiped
it out and set it up for some other purpose. 
 
Now, we were planning on removing their Exchange (the right way) and
setting it back up from scratch under our organization.  My question is,
since they didn't remove the 2nd server correctly out of their AD, when
we go to re-setup their Exchange server under our organization is it NOT
going to prompt us to create a new Org or Join an existing one?  If not,
is there anything I can do to fix that problem so we can move somewhat
seemless with this transition?
 
Thanks,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
W: 240.453.3575
C:  301.938.6294
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