Hi my old friend.  Ok, Darcy, I'm going to digress a bit for the list (sort
of like old times) and see what kind of responses it generates.  Let's see
if anything has changed in the past two years.


VoIP is or will be interesting, depending on where one is.  I think we are
not ready for it.  

Back in February 1996 I was invited to an all hands meeting of the Exchange
team (their Friday stand-up) back when they were still in building 16.  The
occasion was an opportunity to have a customer representative come in and
say some words of encouragement about how important the work they were doing
was.  In the remarks I mentioned that from where I stood, what Microsoft was
building was a telephone system.  Most did not understand why I said that.
Over the next few years Microsoft passed up several opportunities to build
or acquire the missing Exchange telephony components, but oddly, they did
build an MCU.  I think that was a knee-jerk reaction to the IBM-Lotus
acquisition of DataBeam, and its integration into the Notes product line.

Cisco did not miss a beat however, and has been off building a very credible
system, with their two cornerstone pieces coming from their acquisitions of
Selsius and Active Voice.  I understand that Microsoft has made some noise
about building an IP/PBX as a part of the Exchange family, but they are way
late to the party.  Also, I and think more on point to the problems that the
Exchange community faces in becoming the core players in a world of
converged systems, is that we now have a five year legacy of Exchange
operations being architected and installed as though it's primary function
was e-mail and group calendaring, as opposed to being core communications
infrastructure equipment.  Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it is
hugely significant.  This operational culture will not be easily changed.

So what is Exchange?  Is it an application service that is a creature of
traditional file servers and server rooms?  Or is it something more akin to
the network itself, and as such is primarily a creature of switch rooms and
data closets?

What is Exchange's primary bread and butter client?  Is it the currently
shipping versions of Windows running on the old x86 architecture?  Or is it
an embedded system real time communications client that also does web and
thin client stuff natively?

I think we have to get on track with the right answers to these two
questions before we even have a chance of doing Exchnage VoIP integration
well.  Of this I am certain, one cannot successfully navigate the "Road
Ahead" (apologies to Bill,  :-)  ), by looking in the rear view mirror.
That is a strategy for causing a bad accident.



-----Original Message-----
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


I will be doing integration with VoIP as soon as we get upgraded to 5.5 sp4.

Darcy

-----Original Message-----
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they
were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years.

Hi Chris.

For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those
routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and
sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
thought it might be nice to drop in.

Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?

By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts
(she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went
RTM, and well the rest is history.




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