No logging at all.

Regards,
Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


Has logging been on full the entire time or is that just for
troubleshooting? Full logging = lost resources.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


It's becoming one of those unexplained things.  I've been having those
late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other
equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on
full!) have told me nothing.

Confused of Croydon

PBB


-----Original Message-----
From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


Yes this is a very interesting discussion;
 - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of
running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up.  It has been a DC
the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the
whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and
possible some usage and load changes.

The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In
the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100
3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database
size combined with the number of users and load is the issue.

Regards,
Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


Interesting.

Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over
discussed reasons.  We may be seeing the downside of having such.  Like
you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little.

Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I
already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb
10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's.
Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off.  I need to set
aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer.  I've discounted
any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and
switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it
must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it.

If I get any ideas I'll let you know.  If anyone else has, well.... I
think we'll soon find out....

Regards

PBB


-----Original Message-----
From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as
well so I did not have a choice in the matter.  We are waiting for next
years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine
for at least another year.  That is a very interesting thought - there
is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain
controller into a standalone server.  

Thanks
Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


~ndi

Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak
times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules
but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to
migrate until the new year.  Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the
pattern.  FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5
and 256Mb memory
(5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site.

PBB


-----Original Message-----
From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we
are having and have come up with some solutions.  Any suggestions would
be very much appreciated.

Our current setup is;

- Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA
- Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors
- 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases)
                    - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1
(Transaction
Logs)
- Server is running at 100mbps full duplex.
- Pub.edb = 150mb
- Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space)
- Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled
- 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes 

Description

For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in
client side response times on our exchange server.  The slowdown mainly
happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with
attachments and at other times as well.  It sometimes can take 5-8
seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting
immediate response before.  For scrolling through messages in Outlook we
have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an
e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to
desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically.  Although these
slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to
get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange
server speedy. 

Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated.

Regards,

_________________

Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician
BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER
Vancouver, Canada
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