http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?app=WebEvents&eventid=4093

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> 
> 
> anyone know what event viewer id # 4093 is?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> 
> 
> Well it was a 10G file, which is about 81920 megabits.  Let's 
> say you're
> getting 60MBps transfer rate on your 100Mbps LAN (since it's 
> nighttime,
> things are pretty quiet), that should take about 25 minutes.  
> Lemme know if
> my math is wrong.
> 
> -Yanek.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:35 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > 
> > 
> > Which means nothing. Try it out yourself - cut and paste, 
> > drag and drop,
> > xcopy, whatever - a large file, and while its copying, look 
> > at the byte
> > count on the destination drive. That's the FIRST thing done 
> > in the copy
> > process.
> > 
> > You ever time doing a copy of a 20GB file across a LAN??? It 
> > takes a while.
> > A LONG while.
> > 
> > There is no need for retraining this person - even my 3 year 
> > old can say
> > "Would you like fries with that?"
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
> > Senior Systems Administrator
> > Peregrine Systems
> > Atlanta, GA
> > http://www.peregrine.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:10 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > He did wait an hour...  And he's confident the copy was 
> > > complete - same byte
> > > count on both the network drive and the local drive.
> > > 
> > > -Yanek.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like he got impatient and didn't wait for the database 
> > > > to finish
> > > > being copied back to exchsrvr\mdbdata from the network share 
> > > > - which needs
> > > > to complete before you get your dos prompt back.
> > > > 
> > > > After he killed ESEutil, he could've also copied it back 
> > > manually and
> > > > renamed back to priv.edb instead of tape restore.  Then, the 
> > > > defrag effort
> > > > would not have been in vain.
> > > > 
> > > > Louise
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > > 
> > > > He followed the KB article, whatever it was.  Services were 
> > > > down.  I think
> > > > he followed all the "right" procedures.  The temp file was on 
> > > > a network
> > > > drive that had plenty of room.  The defragged temp database 
> > > > exists on the
> > > > temp drive and is whole.  That's how he figures it 
> freed 3.5 gigs.
> > > > 
> > > > -Yanek.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: disaster debriefing
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The utility is dangerous in the wrong hands.  It can take a 
> > > > > very, very, very
> > > > > long time to run.  It also gets very snitty when you don't 
> > > > > have enough room
> > > > > on the HD (or network share) to create the temp file that is 
> > > > > part of the
> > > > > defrag process....Where did he attempt to create the temp 
> > > > > file....on the
> > > > > same drive that is almost full?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And how is he enjoying his time at home these days?
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: disaster debriefing
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ok, so we had a disaster the other day.  Co-Worker of mine 
> > > > ran eseutil
> > > > > against the private IS to free up some disk space.  We were 
> > > > > at about 95%
> > > > > capacity on the drive, and it would creep up to about 98% 
> > > > > before the nightly
> > > > > incrementals, which brought it back down.  Now, I'm not 
> > > > positive what
> > > > > command he ran, but apparently it cleared about 3.5 gigs out 
> > > > > of the IS.
> > > > > Right before eseutil exited, however, it apparently "hung" 
> > > > > waiting for a
> > > > > command prompt.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm a little fuzzy as to what happened after this.  I think 
> > > > > he tried to
> > > > > reboot, and then the IS didn't come up -- he got some errors, 
> > > > > looked them up
> > > > > in the KB to very little avail.  So when I got in at 9 the 
> > > > > next morning,
> > > > > mail was down.  He was still there.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We managed to put humpty dumpty back together again restoring 
> > > > > from the full
> > > > > backup we made right before starting this procedure.  It 
> > > > took several
> > > > > attempts - he had tried restoring from backup before but 
> > > > > hadn't had any
> > > > > success.  I think the procedure we followed was this:
> > > > > Shut down all exchange services
> > > > > Start System Attendant & directory service
> > > > > Restore DS
> > > > > Stop System Attendant & directory service
> > > > > Restart System Attendant
> > > > > Restore IS
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any other combination of services running/not running 
> > > > didn't work out.
> > > > > We're using Veritas Backup Exec BTW.  Well everything's back 
> > > > > to the way it
> > > > > was before we started this whole mess.  I know I've seen 
> > > > > discussions about
> > > > > eseutil on this list before, but I wanted to revisit this 
> > > > and get some
> > > > > concrete information.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What did we do wrong?  What's the right way to use eseutil to 
> > > > > gain disk
> > > > > space?  I'd appreciate any non-flaming advice, pointers, 
> > > > > docs, etc.  I find
> > > > > the archives non-intuitive -- or maybe I'm looking in the 
> > > > wrong place?
> > > > > Can't seem to find a good place to type in a search phrase 
> > > > > "eseutil" and
> > > > > have it return relevant data (I'm here: http://www.swynk.com)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Yanek.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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