Ok, I think I got the hint everyone.  NO BLB's!

Thanks for all of your help.  As usual much better response than other lists.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001, 1:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: �Back�Up�Exec
> 
> Yikes!  You're trying to do BLBs!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> <http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm>
> 
> <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxf.htm>
> 
> from the archives....
> **************
> The Top Ten Reasons why William Doesn't recommend Brick-level backups:
> 
> 10. The only product he's tried it with is ArcServeIT (*shudder*)
> 9. Brick-level backups should be done in conjunction with regular backups
> therefore duplicating the process.
> 8. Brick-level backups don't clear the transaction logs
> 7. Brick-level restores (esp of the entire store) are VERY slow
> 6. Brick-level restores result in loss of Single Instance Storage
> 5. Brick-level backups do not properly maintain all of the data structures
> in the store that you might need for a full restore (at least Computer
> Associates product doesn't).
> 4. The alternative is so much easier and cleaner - deleted item retention.
> Set deleted item retention to say 30 days, a little user education and they
> can do their own  mailbox' restore.
> 3. Regular use of exmerge (to pst files for backup) for important mailboxes
> is another alternative.
> 2. Section 3.11 at: <http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm> says
> so (ok, I don't do everything I'm told either).
> 1. The archives at the Exchange list at swynk.com are full of Brick-level
> horror stories.
> 
> -William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+  (and a brand new Exchange MVP!)
> **************
> 
> Brick Level Backups will not cause your car to rust out or your hair to fall
> out.  They are unlikely to make your system less reliable (but no guarantees
> there), nor make your normal non-brick-level backups less reliable.  They
> do, however, use more tape, make your backup jobs take more time and wear
> your tape drive out faster.  They give you a false sense of security that
> you can get something back when in fact you may not.  And you often cannot
> get everything back from a brick level backup.
> 
> Brick Level Backup is a kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on
> managing their Exchange systems as if they were cc:Mail or MS Mail systems.
> They want the benefits of a database e-mail architecture, but want to manage
> it as if it were a file-based system.
> 
> If you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method�, you can remain secure in
> the knowledge that you'll almost never need to do a Brick Level Restore.
> If, for some rare event you find that you need to restore a message or
> mailbox, then you have a great opportunity to practice your disaster
> recovery techniques on your recovery server.  What?  You don't have a
> recovery server?  Well, you need one whether or not you use Brick Level
> Backup.
> 
> In a nutshell, Brick Level Backups aren't evil.  But they're completely
> superfluous.
> 
> -Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> 
> **************
> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:23 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Back Up Exec
> 
> 
> The problem is that I'm trying to connec to the mailboxes and it asks me for
> a mailbox account to log in as.  I've set one up, but when I insert the
> data, it just kicks it back with the same screen and won't let me proceed.
> 
> It will let me select the data directories, just not the invididual
> mailboxes.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001, 11:41 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: Back Up Exec
> >
> > Maybe you could post some questions here and we could provide you with
> some
> > answers.  IIRC, BE is not that difficult to setup.
> >
> > "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." -Desiderius
> Erasmus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:27 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Back Up Exec
> >
> >
> > Can anyone direct me to some good info on setting up Back Up exec for
> > Exchange 5.5? Drive and console are on a seperate machine from the
> exchange
> > server, same domain though.
> >
> > I've been trying to get info off of the the Veritas list, but no one seems
> > to know of any that are decent.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Tom
> >
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