I wasn't talking about CORPORATE users. I was talking about HOME users. A lot of the sircam/badtrans.B hits are coming from Mindspring.com; bellsouth.net; Earthlink.com; and other home user ISP domains. If you read my original post, you would have seen that I was talking only about HOME users.
In a corporate environment, it's the responsibility of the IT department (Help desk, workstation/server services, whoever) to make sure that processes/procedures are in place to keep workstations up to date, not the workers. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha -----Original Message----- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam Corporate policies may or may not allow all users to access WindowsUpdate, or if they are using WinNT / 2000 / XP they might not have local admin rights. Not quite as simple as your glib assertion would have it. Phil --------------------------------------------- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -----Original Message----- > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 December 2001 14:37 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam > > > Why should I blame the AV product. > > Both problems could have been fixed by the users going to the > WINDOWSUPDATE > site and pulling down the critical updates. That's not too > hard is it? The > users just have to open IE, click on Tools -> Windows Update, > then when the > site pops up, down load the critical updates. They don't even > have to check > the box, just hit the big blue arrow that says DOWNLOAD, then > reboot at the > end. > > For all the griping people do at/about Microsoft, they > couldn't have made it > any easier to keep a workstation up to date on basic security fixes. > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe > nothing because wise > men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious > doctrine. Believe > it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:50 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Exchange Discussions (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam > > > Yeah, well Mcafee 4.5.1 (NO SP) would not detect badtrans > with compressed > files set and scan default files (even tho PIF and SCR in the > default file > scan) the 4176/4.1.60 combination fixes that. So don't quite > blame the user > :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2001 2:46 a.m. > To: Exchange Discussions (E-mail); Advanced Mail Admins (E-mail) > Subject: Badtrans and SirCam > > > 399 hits in two days. Most are BadTrans or SirCam. > > One would think that these home users would have received a > clue or two from > all the news coverage of each outbreak. > > Ack... It disgusts me. > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe > nothing because wise > men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious > doctrine. Believe > it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > *************************************************** > This e-mail is not an official statement of the > Waikato Regional Council unless otherwise stated. > Visit our website http://www.ew.govt.nz > *************************************************** > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > See What You've Been Missing! > Amazing Wireless Video Camera. > Click here > http://us.click.yahoo.com/75YKVC/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/dpFolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
