RFC 2821 states that MTAs must accept all mails from "<>",
as they are delivery notification messages.  Bouncing them,
as a lot of mailers do, is not RFC compliant and a bloody
nuisance :-)

Cheers,

Phil
---------------------------------------------
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 December 2001 10:57
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Why is it a 'stupid' option for null senders?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:51 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
> 
> 
> Well at the moment I'm unable to access an Exchange 2000 
> admin program to
> pinpoint the answer to your questions... but the null sender message
> filtering option is is under whatever the top object is in 
> the admin (Global
> Settings?) on a message filtering tab I believe. The other 
> option is found
> on the default SMTP virtual server I believe.
> 
> However, I'm old and tired so my memory might be totally off.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hooks, Tim
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: 12/17/2001 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
> 
> Thanks for your comments - where I can I find either of these options?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NDR's filling my mailbox
> 
> 
> It's set on the SMTP virtual server. 
> 
> Also it appears that you are blocking mail with a null sender. While
> Exchange certainly supports this option, it's a. a stupid 
> option and b.
> non-RFC compliant.
> 
> Chris
> -- 
> Chris Scharff
> Senior Sales Engineer
> MessageOne
> If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:04 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: NDR's filling my mailbox
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > I recently added an Exchange 2000 server to my site and moved 
> > over all my users, Public folders, and created a new SMTP 
> > connector. I am now getting about 200 NDR messages a day. 
> > They are mostly spam sent old addresses. The last lines read
> > 
> >    The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this 
> > message was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact 
> > the recipient directly to find out the correct address.
> >             < our_server.our domain.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 
> > MAILBOX NOT FOUND>
> > 
> > or
> >   A configuration error in the e-mail system caused the 
> > message to bounce between two servers or to be forwarded 
> > between two recipients.  Contact your administrator.
> >             < our_server.our domain.com #5.4.6>
> > 
> > or
> >    The format of the e-mail address is incorrect.  Check the 
> > address, look up the recipient in the Address Book, or 
> > contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address.
> >             < our_server.our domain.com #5.1.3 SMTP; 553 From 
> > <>, message blocked.>
> > 
> > 
> > Part of the problem is this - our email domain name has had 3 
> > or 4 variations over the last five years, such that many of 
> > our users have 4 or 5 smtp addresses - [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. So, email to the oldest 
> > address is not getting delivered, I seem to be unable to 
> > create any new SMTP addresses in the recipient policy that 
> > holds the highest priority. This puzzles me.
> > 
> > The real big problem I have is that the NDR are being sent to 
> > everyone in the administrators group - very annoying. I can 
> > not find where to turn this off. The setting under the 
> > virtual smtp server, messages, forward a copy is blank and 
> > the smtp vitrual server has been restarted. Any ideas on how 
> > to get these from being delivered to the administrator's group?
> > 
> > Thanks for your insights.
> > 
> > Tim Hooks
> > 
> 
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