You made your point, all right.  Your point is foolish and will serve
you poorly down the road.  You have spent far too much money--real
money--on a very rapidly depreciating asset (check out the prices of
three-year-old servers on eBay).  Perhaps you have saved your company
money in other ways; I wouldn't know whether that is true or not.  But
being right in one area doesn't make you right in this one.  And, my
friend, you are not right in this example.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


I agree.  The 5-8 years was a little far-fetched.  However, I was simply
trying to make a point.  My goal is to get the most I can "now".  3
years from now I'll do it again.

And another point....

You guys are stuck on the mentality that I might be overpaying for
something.

I would like you to consider this.  I don't know your situation but I
personally have "saved" the company much more than I've convinced them
to spend!



-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


A system that is good for 5-8 years? So you are currently running
systems that were state of the art 5-8 years ago? Do you have Exchange
running on a 486-DX2 with 128MB of RAM?

BTW, from a financial standpoint any system that old is already fully
depreciated. I suspect your support costs for continuing to support
systems that old, as well as the loss of productivity your users
experience due to hardware this old. I agree with the Buy the biggest
system you can now, but I'm just hoping to keep it running for 3 years
until I've fully written it off the books.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


So because you cannot afford to spec a server appropriately you decide
it's best to flame everyone else that can.

If your read the original post correctly you would have seen that I was
making a recommendation.  The recommendation allows for future growth of
the database and the least amount of hardware problems.  The fact that
you consider the hardware to be overkill shows you lack of experience.
I recommended a system that should last 5-8 years.  What good does it do
to spec a system that barely meets your current needs?  

In addition, you are chastising me for convincing higher ups to purchase
a system that is in your opinion an overkill....Wouldn't this be
considered an asset?  Maybe you should evaluate your own tactics with
upper management. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Someone would have to be on some good drugs to over-spec a server like
that. I guess we're the unfortunate bunch with actual "real" world
budgets to work with...  ;o)

D


-----Original Message-----
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 6:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Ha ha ha ha LOL.

Crack pipe. Nice one Don.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Network Support Analyst
Exchange Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 January 2002 14:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


What crack pipe are you smoking out of?  Those specs are way beyond
what's necessary!

D

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right.  Your primary
problem is hardware.

This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements.

Dual Pentium III 550 +
Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config.  (2 partitions
logical) 2 Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run
optimizer and move the databases and log files to 2nd partition.


-----Original Message-----
From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization


One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on
NT4 SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the
Physical Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it
was around 60%).  The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb
of physical memory and 1Gb page file.  It is the same spec as 4 other
servers in the site which all sit at around 60% utilization.  As it is a
24x7 service we offer on our server, down time is very limited.  Is
there any way I can check the performance optimizer settings without
stopping the store? Or are there any other pointers that anyone can
think of I can check?



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