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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)


> Hello,
>
> I am replying specifically to this post - when you say Firewall
> vendor, are you making the assumption that our firewall is a
> hardware based solution?
No. It can be s/w.

> I simply ask, because we are using Microsoft ISA Server for our
> solution - and was curious if there is an add-on for that product.
I don't know. In my opinion ISA is not a true f/w

> I will check the website for more details - but would still like
> to know other people's opinions of doing it this way - and
> particularly with ISA Server.

I'm using  http://www.intel.com/network/idc/products/vpn_gateway.htm
and happy.


> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Szabo
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
>
>
> Check with your firewall vendor if they have a vpn add-on. Most do.
>
> /Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
>
>
> > Greetings All,
> >
> > If this is getting OT, I am sure you will let me know real fast.
> >
> > Regarding this VPN stuff - I understand completely, the concepts
> > behind it - now I need to implement it.  This doesn't necessarily
> > need to be hardware related does it?
> >
> > Can't I simply install some software on the Clients and the Server
> > that allows them to login to the server, and begin an encrypted
> > session?  This is getting a little beyond my expertise.
> >
> > What kind of products are you all using to accomplish this
> > complicated task?  I remember in the past when PPTP came out
> > from Microsoft, but have not heard much about it lately.
> >
> > Thanks again everyone, you are all lifesavers!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
> > Anderson
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:12 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
> >
> >
> > AWESOME! -
> >
> > That's precisely the answer I was looking for.
> >
> > This list is awesome :)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:59 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
> >
> >
> > We have 60+ salesmen and engineers who connect via 56K modem dial up
while
> > on the road to access their email with Outlook/Exchange through a VPN...
> > Everything works well, though a bit slowly at times, but not so slow as
to
> > be unusable or unbearable.
> >
> > You can do away with IMAP completely if you like...  Outlook allows you
to
> > create an Offline Folder file, which is a local copy of the information
> > stored on the Exchange server...  With the offline folder file, users
can
> > continue to work with Outlook and maintain full functionality whether
> > they're connected or not and will automatically synchronize (send,
receive
> > mail, update calendar, contacts, tasks, etc) whenever they are
> connected...
> >
> > Look in the help files for Outlook for help setting up Offline Access...
> > There's also plenty of info at Microsoft and other sites that explain
how
> to
> > set this up and use it (it's pretty simple)....
> >
> > Joe Pochedley
> > "I like deadlines,"
> > cartoonist Scott Adams once said.
> > "I especially like the whooshing
> > sound they make as they fly by."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:26 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
> >
> >
> > Okay -
> >
> > I like the VPN route - and use Outlook 2000 as it was intended.
> >
> > BUT, what kind of Network Overhead is involved - when connecting
remotely
> > over a potentially slow connection?  Will it take forever for folders to
> > come up, especially if they are unusually large?
> >
> > Also, if the client cannot connect for some reason (which has been
> happening
> > A LOT lately - due to massive service problems), what is the best
solution
> > to still have your old e-mail inside of Outlook?  I was thinking this
> would
> > be where IMAP really comes into it's own - because you can still keep
your
> > mail local, and on the server too - and when the connection comes back
up,
> > you just resynchronize everything - and you are good to go.
> >
> > Thanks for your continued responses,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:46 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
> >
> >
> > Get rid of POP
> > IMAP could work
> > OWA is great
> >
> > Best: Get a VPN and use the regular Exch/OL combo.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:30 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Our present scenario is the following:  Corporate users, that have a PC
on
> > their desk.  These users, *may* travel to another location in which they
> > will use a PC sitting on someone else's desk.  And about half of these
> > employees will have a laptop - in which they work from home, and travel
on
> > the road.  Either way, they need to have access to all new mail that
comes
> > in, in addition to all their old mail, so they can always have the
ability
> > to refer to any old messages.
> >
> > In all of these cases, they need access to their e-mail.  Before we
> > installed our Exchange Server, we were using POP3 access exclusively and
> as
> > we all know, POP3 clients typically pull their mail from the server,
when
> > retrieving their messages.  Yes, you CAN set things up to leave their
mail
> > on the server, but things get funny once in a while, and their mail
> clients
> > lose track of what messages they have already retrieved from the server,
> > versus which ones they already have on their hard drive. (so sometimes,
> they
> > have like a 1,000 new messages, when in reality they only have a few new
> > ones)  I am sick of dealing with that problem - because it happens way
too
> > often.
> >
> > Also, some people accidentally leave their machines on when they go home
> at
> > night.  All just to go home and find out that they have no new
messages -
> > because their office PC steals all their e-mail.
> >
> > We just migrated our users from Ipswitch's IMail server, to our new
> Exchange
> > Box - and the above reasons are why we decided to do this. I am very
> > impressed with Exchange Server - although it is quite complex, I believe
> > it's the answer to all our problems.
> >
> > NOW this is where I need your help.  I was thinking about doing the
> > following:
> >
> > Get rid of POP3 altogether, and use IMAP from now on.  This way, the
> laptop
> > users can still take all their mail with them when they travel and still
> > have their old mail they can refer to if they are unable to get online
to
> > connect to the server.
> >
> > I believe IMAP allows you to synchronize your local mail with the mail
on
> > the server correct?  Also, for corporate users with their own laptop OR
> > those that only have access to a public terminal - I was thinking that
> they
> > could use OWA to handle all of their e-mail issues.  And the fact that
all
> > mail remains on the server at all times, no matter which method the
> > employees use to get their e-mail, the mail will always be there for
them.
> >
> > So bottom line is - IMAP and OWA correct?  Are there any other
suggestions
> > that anybody can offer to help tackle this problem?
> >
> > Thanks in advance - and sorry for the long post,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
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