I would have to agree.  What happens is that some interruption in the
network occurs and Outlook becomes disconnected, if you will.  When the
user pokes Outlook, it wakes up and messages appear.  I see this all the
time, especially over my VPN connection to my employer.  I think you
have two choices, the first being to tell the users to poke Outlook once
in a while, and the other to figure out what's happening to your
network.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Benjamin
Winzenz
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook won't bring in mail


I still would suspect network issues.  Check your DNS, check your NIC's,
check the ports on the switch, etc. etc.  Hardcore the port on the
switch the server is on to 100mb/full as well as on the server.  Replace
cables. What brand of switch do you have?  Have you checked the wiring
back to the clients?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Sandoval, LaCretia, Triaton/US [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:36 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Outlook won't bring in mail

We had suspicions that it was the UDP packets however, this occurs
randomly and in my case it's throughout the company.  Not just on one
subnet.  There is no router or firewall just a switch.  Considering it
happens randomly, I think the switch isn't the problem here.  We used a
product from NetIQ called Queue check and verified the udp packets are
getting through just fine.  Of course this is random so???  At any rate
do you think it is possible that the Exchange server is not sending the
UDP packet?  I'm pretty sure it's the network, however one of the guys
here asked me to post the question.

Regards,
________________
LaCretia Sandoval
Dallas LAN Administrator
Triaton, NA, Inc.
972-443-4027
_______________________

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:14 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Outlook won't bring in mail

Sounds like it is more like the New Mail notification message does not
get processed by the client.  I would be on a network problem.  Have you
checked the NIC settings?  If it is on a switch try setting to
100mb/full duplex. Make sure that the Exchange server is on a switch and
can be set to 100mb/full duplex as well.  Are there any routers between
the clients and server?  It sounds like it since they are on different
subnets.  New mail notifications are sent as UDP packets.  If you have
routers or a firewall that is blocking UDP, then this will cause the
behavior you are seeing.  I would check those rather than lay the blame
on the clients.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Sandoval, LaCretia, Triaton/US [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:03 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Outlook won't bring in mail

In our environment they do not "pull" the e-mail.  What happens is when
you startup in the morning mail comes in fine.  Throughout the day,
Outlook will be running in the background and you will not get any mail.
As soon as you click on something in Outlook... BAM! 3-4 messages arrive
all at once.  


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Bowles, John  L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:03 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Outlook won't bring in mail

If that's the case they shouldn't be downloading email at all.  They
should just be getting their email when it comes in.  You said that they
are "Pulling" their mail in.  If it's  setup in the Corporate
environment then they should receive their mail in real time.  Maybe i'm
not reading something right here.  Let me know.


___________________
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  


-----Original Message-----
From: Sandoval, LaCretia, Triaton/US [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook won't bring in mail


In my environment we are setup in a Corporate environment.

 
 -----Original Message-----
From:   Bowles, John  L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Outlook won't bring in mail

Do you have the Outlook clients setup as Internet Mail?  Or Corporate
Workgroup?

___________________
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  


-----Original Message-----
From: Sandoval, LaCretia, Triaton/US [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook won't bring in mail


Tom, 
We have had the same problem here and we have not been able to figure it
out.  Seems like if they click in outlook all of the sudden several
messages appear at once.  ??? Let me know if you figure it out.


Regards,
LaCretia Sandoval 
 -----Original Message-----
From:   Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:35 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        Outlook won't bring in mail

Got a weird one here.....

Client : Win2k
Outlook 2000

Server:  Exchange 5.5
NT 4 SP 6a

I have exchange and some clients sitting in one subnet (say 
10.0.0.whatever) and clients sitting in another (say 
192.168.20.whatever).  Clients in the exchange subnet get their mail 
just fine, however clients in in the 192 subnet have a difficult time 
getting outlook to bring in their mail in a regular fashion.  When they 
start outlook up, it connects to exchange and pulls all of their mail 
in, but here is were it gets weird.  If outlook is the only running 
application, it will continue to bring mail in, however if other 
applications are being run, and outlook goes to the background,  the 
only way that the client can bring in their mail is to click on their 
inbox or hit send and rec.  I've never seen this happen before, and 
tweaks that I've done to the settings in outlook don't seem to fix
anything.

Thoughts?

Tom


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