I don't think you'd ever see viruses being missed due to overload from purely external 
virus messages. You really need one or two people to open it internally and send it 
off to the entire GAL to achieve that level of saturation. I saw it happen a couple of 
times under the old MAPI Groupshield.

-Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV v. IMS question


I personally have not seen this here either, we dropped groupshield a while
back.  It jsut struck me as odd cause that seems like a pretty MAJOR
drawback.  I remember when loveletter hti we got flodded, but nothing got
through, but it really hit the bandwidth on our internet hard.

Would you happen to know, outside of symantec.com, where i might be able to
find more information on ESE?  How it works and whatnot. 

e-

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV v. IMS question


MAPI based scanners will overload and pass attachments. I have seen it
happen personally (#1 reason I originally dumped Groupshield).
There is some case study that says AVAPI can overload as well, but I have
never heard of this happening for real.
Apparently this isn't a problem at all for ESE based scanners.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AV v. IMS question


Hi

I was looking at some policy examples on rr.sans.org(we are gearing up for
hippa) and I ran across this in a section talking about policy for AV on
mail servers.....

**
When large numbers of attachments must be blocked within a short period of
time, such as during an outbreak of a new Microsoft Outlook Visual Basic
virus, running attachment blocking on both the mail gateway and the internal
mail server helps prevent infected attachments from slipping through due to
overload. 
**

I wasn't aware of behavior such as this and was curious if this happened
where a email server lets otherwise infected emails through because its
getting overworked?  I would imagine those items would bounce or queue up in
some way or possibly even down the IMS and stop traffic.

any thoughts?

e-

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