You believe correctly. :)  Not sure we'll figure out whose router it was,
but as long as it doesn't happen again I don't much care.

-Ben-

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Some "Hosts Unreachable" - Follow-up
> 
> 
> The term, I believe, is black-hole router.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Schorr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:54 PM
> Subject: RE: Some "Hosts Unreachable" - Follow-up
> 
> 
> > Well, the problem is resolved but nobody's entirely sure how.  It 
> > looks
> like
> > it was an issue with a router somewhere upstream discarding 
> improperly
> sized
> > packets instead of responding properly (Q136970 is sort of related) 
> > but whose router and what they did to fix it we don't know 
> for certain 
> > just
> yet.
> >
> > What a day.
> >
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:00 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Some "Hosts Unreachable"
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a new one on me; maybe some of you have seen it before.  
> > > Exchange 5.5 on NT4SP6a using the IMS to connect through an ISA 
> > > server.  On a handful of hosts the message queues up with a "Host 
> > > Unreachable" error.  On most hosts (including old favorites like 
> > > aol.com, hotmail.com, etc.) mail comes and goes just fine and we 
> > > don't seem to be having any problems RECEIVING mail.
> > >
> > > But to this small band of hosts (including hawaii.edu and
> > > hawaii.rr.com) the mail just queues up.  Here's a snippet from an 
> > > SMTP log that may shed some
> > > light:
> > >
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : >>> MAIL
> > > FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=1977 RET=FULL
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< IO: |250 2.1.0 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
> > > |
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< 250 2.1.0 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > OK 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : >>> RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > NOTIFY=FAILURE,DELAY
> > >
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< IO: |250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > |
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : >>> DATA
> > >
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< IO: |354 Start mail input;
> > > end with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> > > |
> > > 3/19/02 12:15:06 PM : <<< 354 Start mail input; end
> > > with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> > > 3/19/02 12:16:22 PM : 499 Host unreachable: cta.net.  Message
> > > subject: ""Plain Text Test"".  Rescheduling delivery for later.
> > >
> > > Notice that it seems to be going fine until it gets the 
> 354 message, 
> > > then it sits for a little over a minute and seems to time 
> out.  This 
> > > particular test message was just a couple of lines of 
> plain text; so 
> > > it shouldn't be a size issue.
> > >
> > > We've already restarted the IMS several times and the entire 
> > > Exchange server once.  Judging by the oldest message in the queue 
> > > this problem seems to have started this weekend and no unusual 
> > > system maintenance or changes occurred over the weekend.  
> As far as 
> > > I know we were able to send mail to/from those domains 
> just fine on 
> > > Friday.
> > >
> > > Baffling.  Any thoughts on what might be causing this and 
> how we can 
> > > resolve it?
> > >
> > > -Ben-
> > > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > > Director of Information Services
> > > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com <http://www.hawaiilawyer.com>
> > >
> > >
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