Great! [1]Excuse me for "obfuscating" the domain, I thought it was best. I now understand my faulty thinking. That was the information I was really looking for. I did not realize the error message using "sorry" was from another system. So now I understand that message came from the OTHER server. I do not see how I could have read into that. I do understand why I got the responses I did, see above. [1] If anyone could direct me to a place where error messages are described & detailed I would love to know.
Thank you all again, John Q ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits > First off, you obfuscated the domain name of the server. As has been said > here many, many times that makes it very difficult for the rest of us to > help troubleshoot. > > Second: neither the IMS in 5.x or the SMTP service in Win2K use wording like > "sorry..." That's coming from the system you're sending to. Your server does > not send NDRs back to itself; the OTHER system is the one that sends the > NDRs. > > Now, how about we start over? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Szabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > Receiving user over his/her quota? > > > > /Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Q Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:32 PM > > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > > > > I understand and I think the issue here is my poor communication skills. > > > mail01-ens.domain.com is MY mail server. The mail server where no limits > > are > > > set! > > > I appreciate the advice. > > > I think my question should have been, What does, "that message size > > exceeds > > > my databytes limit" mean in terms of where are the possible settings for > > > these limits OTHER than the two places I have mentioned. (below) > > > Are there any other places? > > > Yes the message is CLEAR, I just don't know if I have ALL the places it > > > could have been set. > > > This is what I got from the message, > > > #5.3.4 smtp - 5.X.X Permanent Failure > > > X.3.4 Message too big for system > > > > > > 552 - sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit. > > > > > > So I looked at the limits and found no inconsistencies. Please let me > know > > > where I went wrong, besides coming to this list!, ridicules included. > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > - John Q > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ben Winzenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:32 PM > > > Subject: RE: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > > > > > > > John, what Daniel is saying is that if you look at the error message, > it > > > > CLEARLY says that the message is being rejected BY > mail01-ens.domain.com > > > as > > > > indicated by the 552 sorry, that message size exceeds > > > > My databytes limit. I think there are many times that admins don't > > trust > > > > themselves. This may or may not have been the case here. > Understanding > > > > error messages is one of the basic functions of our jobs. It is > > > frustrating > > > > for many of us here when the same questions get asked over and over > when > > > all > > > > it would take is 2 seconds to actually look at the message and say to > > > > yourself, Oh, this is the domain I am sending to. Oh, they are saying > > > that > > > > the message size exceeds their limit. Plus, if you know that you have > > no > > > > limits set on your servers, then it really is a no-brainer. Trust > > > yourself > > > > a little more. It will make things easier. > > > > > > > > Ben Winzenz, MCSE > > > > Network/Systems Administrator > > > > Peregrine Systems > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:04 PM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > > > > > Dan - > > > > > > > > I have thought about this, as I listed below, I understand that there > > are > > > > size limit issues. > > > > But where these are controlled was my question, or where the size > limit > > > > issue is. > > > > I can, will, and do research and read, but thank you. > > > > > > > > - John Q > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:38 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see Soysal already answered. I'll take this opportunity to rant a > > > little > > > > > bit. > > > > > > > > > > The title of administrator carries with it an implicit ability to > > > > logically > > > > > think things through. The error message you are getting below is > > > > > _completely_ clear - mail01-ens.domain.com obviously has a message > > size > > > > > limit. > > > > > > > > > > THINK, dammit. Stop expecting the world to earn your paycheck for > you. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "John Q Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:21 PM > > > > > Subject: Re:mailbox size limits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a user that is using a mail that gets this error when > > > attempting > > > > to > > > > > > send an attachment that is 47K. > > > > > > > > > > > > mail01-ens.domain.com #5.5.0 smtp;552 sorry, that message size > > exceeds > > > > my > > > > > > databytes limit (#5.3.4)> > > > > > > > > > > > > The default limits are set to No limit for sending mail size in > > > Message > > > > > > Delivery Properties. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I looked into the user profile delivery restrictions and it > was > > > set > > > > > to > > > > > > Use default limit, so I changed the Sending message size to > "Maximum > > > KB: > > > > > > 200". But the user still gets the message. > > > > > > > > > > > > Where else are the limits set? Is this what the error message is > > > > > referring > > > > > > to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - John Q > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
