I see that port 113 was one of those originally set up for Exchange on my firewall -- 
Exch2K/W2K doesn't require it?  I'm happy to reject it if not needed.


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: smtp - UDP, TCP, or IP?


Dont need to. However , you should reject 113 - dont merely drop it.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: smtp - UDP, TCP, or IP?


Wow I  have a lot to learn then, I don't even know what a 'tcp sny' packet
is.  If I have port 25 open wouldn't that imply that I'm not blocking tcp
syn packets on port 25?  Would that be the difference between using the ip
permit over the tcp permit statements?

Also, should I have port 113 open?  It sounds like I should.

Much thanks.
e- 

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: smtp - UDP, TCP, or IP?

On Thu, 9 May 2002, at 6:35pm, Hansen, Eric wrote:
> As part of our access statement we used "tcp permit" for 110 and 25.  
> Well it turned out that by doing this mail came in but didn't go out.

  SMTP is TCP port 25.  SMTP does not use UDP, not is it an IP-layer
protocol.

  Make sure you have all the rules, and in all directions.  Maybe you are
accidentally blocking outbound TCP SYN packets on port 25?

  Also, if your default policy is to drop without reply, make sure you at
least send a TCP RST for connect attempts to TCP port 113, which is the
"auth" protocol (also called "ident").  Many SMTP mail exchangers will do an
"auth" query, and if you just drop those packets on the floor, they may time
out or reject you.

  If all else fails, use a packet sniffer to see what is going over the
wire.

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