They probably added themselves to the Exchange Domain Servers security
group.  Once there, they can pretty much do anything to the org.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:59 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Delegation Wizard
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


Basically what is going on is this.  We have 2 admins on the West Coast
that have an exchange server out there.  But since I manage the server
here on the east coast it's in our Admin Group.  Ok the only one that
has Full Admin rights to the Org and AG is me.  No one else.  But all of
a sudden these guys are running this Delegation Wizard and placing
themselves inside the Org and AG.  With no prior account in there to do
this with.  Now I have 2 extra accounts w/Full Admin rights in the Org
and AG.  I asked them how they did that and they said they just ran the
Delegation Wizard.  Does that clear things up?

___________________________
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard


John, to understand you correctly lets use some examples.
Fred Bloggs has not delegated rights within the exchange organisation
whatsoever Then Fred just runs the Exchange system manager program and
adds himself as an Exchange Full administrator at the organisation
level. Please confirm this is what is happening.

He is a member of what security groups?
Do these groups have any delegated rights in the exchange organisation?

Leo

> I think you are missing the question I'm asking.  They are adding
> themselves without already having an account in org or admin group.  
> See what I'm saying?  They are basically adding anything at any time. 
> Usually you would have to have an account already present.  But there 
> isn't one.
> 
> ___________________________
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> They're in the Delegation of Administration Wizard!  Don't give
> Exchange Full Admin rights to those whom you don't want to allow to 
> change permissions.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Ed,
> 
> What permissions are you talking about?  Cause as of now.  They don't
> have any permissions on the Org or the administrative group.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ___________________________
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> Change their permissions so they can't do that.  Security by
> obfuscation is of little value.  What's to stop them from asking the 
> opposite question and reversing what you've done?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> Tech Consultant
> hp Services
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bowles, John

> L.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Delegation Wizard
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> Is there anyway to remove the Delegation wizard that comes along with
> the install of Exchange 2000?  Currently we have admins that think 
> that it's fun to add themselves as Full Admins on our site.  Can I 
> take care of this somehow?  And what privileges do you need to add 
> yourself?  I can't think of it off the top of my head.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> ___________________________
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
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