You can run GPOTOOL and GPRESULT straight away.. they're non-destructive :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Elmer St�wer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 June 2002 17:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 minutes (Active
Direct ory issue?)


All right... "Good luck" sounds like weekend fun. I will do all this on Saturday after 
running the weekend backup on our servers. I will probably run GPResult and GPOTool 
again tomorrow on _all_ DCs.

Thank you very much so far...

All the best

Elmer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> minutes (Active
> Direct ory issue?)
> 
> 
> OK... seeing as it's seeming to hang during application of 
> group policy, try the following:
> 
> 1. Run GPRESULT on each domain controller and compare the output
> 2. Run GPOTOOL on the errant domain controller and check for errors
> 
> If there are no errors, you could do a number of additional 
> things, although there is some risk involved ... I trust you 
> have backups... check out Point 3 first before doing any of 
> the others ... maybe I should have made that point one :)
> 
> 1. Move the Exchange Server out of the built-in Domain 
> Controllers OU into a fresh OU. Don't link the Default Domain 
> Controllers Policy to the GPO yet... wait for the next SceCli 
> cycle and see if you still get the hanging problem.
> 
> 2. If you're not getting any replication errors on the two 
> DC's and there are NO dns errors, consider running DCPROMO on 
> the Exchange server and removing it as a domain controller.. 
> this is risky if you do have any outstanding replication 
> issues, so I'd do this as a last resort...!
> 
> 3. Try this one first... POLICYTEST is saying that the 
> Exchange Enterprise Servers group does not have the 
> SeSecurity Privilege .. there is a caveat in the POLICYTEST 
> help that says you shouldn't apply any policy changes on your 
> DC's until this change has been replicated, so I suspect this 
> is creating problems for you. Run SETUP /DOMAINPREP again .. 
> it's not unheard of for SP2 to trash domainprep permissions 
> (seem to recall a previous post here to that effect)...
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elmer St�wer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 06 June 2002 16:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> minutes (Active
> Direct ory issue?)
> 
> 
> Exchane is running for about 6 month now on the new server 
> and I can hardly find log-files. We had an 5.5 Server which 
> had some problems. I upgraded the old NT PDC to W2K and set 
> up a new 2K Server for E2K. Then I used the Ed Crowley method 
> do move the content from the 5.5 Server to E2K. I encountered 
> a _lot_ of problems during that 'upgrade'.
> 
> But after that Exchange 'worked fine' for some month. Later I 
> found SceCli and UserEnv Errors every 5 minutes in the event 
> log. I tried to fix that following the according ms docs. I 
> think since then we have the Exchange Problems.
> 
> Btw. I also installed a new dat streamer about the time we 
> ran into the Exchange problems, but I never considered this 
> as the cause.
> 
> So far, thank you very much for you help. I was able to fix 
> some issues and learned a lot.
> 
> regards
> 
> Elmer
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:44 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > minutes (Active
> > Direct ory issue?)
> > 
> > 
> > Did you encounter any errors when you did your initial 
> > Exchange server install ? Check back through the logs.. if 
> > you're getting POLICYTEST errors then it looks like 
> > DOMAINPREP didn't run right... you did the run the SP2 
> > version of policytest btw?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elmer St�wer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 06 June 2002 12:48
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > minutes (Active
> > Direct ory issue?)
> > 
> > 
> > Running POLICYTEST says !!! right NOT found !!! for all DCs.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Elmer
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:22 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > minutes (Active
> > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I believe it's a special built-in group like Authenticated 
> > > Users. It may well not be present in a single domain... I'll 
> > > see if I can find out more about that one.
> > > 
> > > To check your DOMAINPREP ran ok... run POLICYTEST on the 
> > > domain controller from the \Support\Utils\Platform folder on 
> > > the Exchange 2000 Ent. Edition CD-ROM to make sure all domain 
> > > controllers have the Manage Auditing and Security logs 
> > > privilege. You'll need to be a domain admin to run this.... 
> > > all domain controllers will report their settings. You'll 
> > > also find this tool under the \SUPPORT folder in SP2, so 
> > > preferably run this version. What does it say ?
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Elmer St�wer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 05 June 2002 19:47
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > minutes (Active
> > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Enterprise Domain Controllers (built-in group) should have 
> > > Is this something I schould worry about? The group does not 
> > > exist in our domain. We do have the domain controller group, 
> > > but not Enterprise Domain Controller...
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > 
> > > Elmer
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:29 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > > minutes (Active
> > > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ouch.. what a mess..
> > > > 
> > > > Check through your event logs... the symptoms you are 
> > > > describing suggest an underlying problem, e.g. DNS... the 
> > > > enviable situation you're in, I suspect, is a byproduct of 
> > > > that (machine account/kerberos/security problems etc), 
> > > > together with some new ones you may have introduced trying to 
> > > > fix the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > This little chestnut was interesting......
> > > > 
> > > >   Error NT-AUTORIT�T\DOM�NENCONTROLLER DER ORGANISATION 
> > > doesn't have 
> > > >             Replicating Directory Changes
> > > >             Replication Syncronization
> > > >             Manage Replication Topology
> > > > 
> > > > Have you been changed any AD/OU security or turned off AD 
> > > > inheritance within your domain tree ???? Click on Advanced in 
> > > > ADUC, go to the root of your domain and click on the Security 
> > > > tab.. what do you see ? 
> > > > 
> > > > Enterprise Domain Controllers (built-in group) should have 
> > > > Manage Replication Topology, Replicating directory changes 
> > > > and Replication Synchronization Allow permissions. Exchange 
> > > > Enterprise Servers (built-in) should have Manage Replication 
> > > > Topology. 
> > > > 
> > > > How are you applying group policy within your organisation ? 
> > > > If you're using some of the Microsoft GPO Templates (e.g. 
> > > > SECUREDC.INF)and applying those on your Exchange Server, you 
> > > > may experience *ahem* some loss of functionality, killing 
> > > > Exchange in the process.
> > > > 
> > > > For problems with machine accounts, have a look at Technet 
> > > > Q260575.. this deals with machine account 'Access Denied' 
> > > > errors. Also, if you've moved the machine accounts for your 
> > > > DC's out of the built-in domain controllers OU and not 
> > > > re-linked in the default domain controllers group policy back 
> > > > to the new OU, you'll get lots of SceCli messages in the 
> > > > event log (although you're event id does not suggest this).
> > > > 
> > > > Leave SYSVOL alone... the SYSVOL\SYSVOL path/junction is 
> > > > normal... don't touch! Use GPOTOOL on the Reskit and NTFRSUTL 
> > > > to troubleshoot general GPO/SYSVOL/FRS issues.
> > > > 
> > > > In short, don't go making big changes to things which are 
> > > > unlikely to be the cause of the problem. Make sure DNS is 
> > > > working..  and check out that security problem 
> mentioned earlier.
> > > > 
> > > > Seeing as it's rather hard to see what chain of events have 
> > > > occurred to get you into this situation, if you're still in 
> > > > the mire, get out your wallet and give Micrsoft PSS a call.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > Mylo
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Elmer St�wer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 04 June 2002 20:14
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > > minutes (Active
> > > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Single local domain, single site two servers (einstein DC 
> > > > fileserver, platon DC exchangeserver).
> > > > 
> > > > no event log failures, but the seems to stand for almost a 
> > > > minute at the same time as SceCli applies security policy on 
> > > > the exchange server (event 1704).
> > > > 
> > > > netdiag is not very helpful.
> > > > DCdiag was a good hint. I put the output of both servers 
> > > > here, cause I don't know what to do anymore (maybe 12h work 
> > > > is to much for one day) 
> > > > 
> > > > output of DCdiag on einstein:
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > Doing primary tests
> > > >    
> > > >    Testing server: Alt-Moabit\EINSTEIN
> > > >       Starting test: Replications
> > > >          [Replications Check,EINSTEIN] A recent replication 
> > > > attempt failed:
> > > >             From PLATON to EINSTEIN
> > > >             Naming Context: DC=cyberconsult,DC=lan
> > > >             The replication generated an error (8453):
> > > >             Der Replikationszugriff wurde verweigert.
> > > >             The failure occurred at 2002-06-04 19:48.21.
> > > >             The last success occurred at 2002-05-23 17:02.11.
> > > >             3115 failures have occurred since the last success.
> > > >             The machine account for the destination EINSTEIN.
> > > >             is not configured properly.
> > > >             Check the userAccountControl field.
> > > >             Kerberos Error.
> > > >             The machine account is not present, or does not 
> > > > match on the.
> > > >             destination, source or KDC servers.
> > > >             Verify domain partition of KDC is in sync with 
> > > > rest of enterprise.
> > > >             The tool repadmin/syncall can be used for 
> > this purpose.
> > > >          ......................... EINSTEIN passed test 
> > Replications
> > > >       Starting test: NCSecDesc
> > > > ---------------------   
> > > > 
> > > > output of DCdiag on platon:
> > > > Doing primary tests
> > > >    
> > > >    Testing server: Alt-Moabit\PLATON
> > > >       Starting test: Replications
> > > >          ......................... PLATON passed test 
> Replications
> > > >       Starting test: NCSecDesc
> > > >          Error NT-AUTORIT�T\DOM�NENCONTROLLER DER 
> > > > ORGANISATION doesn't have 
> > > >             Replicating Directory Changes
> > > >             Replication Syncronization
> > > >             Manage Replication Topology
> > > >          access rights for the naming context:
> > > >          DC=cyberconsult,DC=lan
> > > >          ......................... PLATON failed test NCSecDesc
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Using replmon.exe to determine the status of replication 
> > > > I get the following:
> > > > ---------------------
> > > >     Directory Partition: DC=cyberconsult,DC=lan
> > > > 
> > > >           Partner Name: Alt-Moabit\PLATON
> > > >                Partner GUID: 
> FFF5003A-7832-48CD-A5E0-9D8227C95EC0
> > > >                Last Attempted Replication: 6/4/2002 4:31:46 
> > > PM (local)
> > > >                Last Successful Replication: 5/23/2002 5:02:11 
> > > > PM (local)
> > > >                Number of Failures:  3077
> > > >                Failure Reason Error Code:  8453
> > > >                Failure Description: Der 
> Replikationszugriff wurde
> > > > verweigert.
> > > >                Synchronization Flags:
> > > > DRS_WRIT_REP,DRS_INIT_SYNC,DRS_PER_SYNC
> > > >                USN of Last Property Updated:  337656
> > > >                USN of Last Object Updated:  337656
> > > >                Transport: Intra-Site RPC
> > > > 
> > > >           Change Notifications for this Directory Partition
> > > >           -------------------------------------------------
> > > >                Server Name: Alt-Moabit\PLATON
> > > >                     Object GUID: 
> > > DBE24D70-EE08-479C-9129-D048C1A6CD91
> > > >                     Time Added:  12.02.2002 15:20:29
> > > >                     Flags:       DRS_WRIT_REP
> > > >                     Transport:   RPC
> > > > ---------------------
> > > > 
> > > > "Der Replikationszugriff wurde verweigert" means "replication 
> > > > access was denied". There are no errors for other partitions 
> > > > or into the other direction.
> > > > 
> > > > What is also strange to me:
> > > > under .\sysvol I have the shared directory .\sysvol\sysvol 
> > > > including the .\sysvol\sysvol\'domain_name' directory in it 
> > > > (last change 5/23/2002). But I also have an .\sysvol\domain 
> > > > directory with the same content as 
> > > > .\sysvol\sysvol\'domain_name'. I found a registry key from 
> > > > frs which is pointing there.
> > > > 
> > > > So if someone has the hint to fix that replication issue it 
> > > > would be just great... I know that I can not expect people 
> > > > from a mailing list to go through a lot of text and 
> > > > log-files. But maybe one is interested in that issue...
> > > > 
> > > > regards
> > > > 
> > > > elmer
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:51 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > > > minutes (Active
> > > > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Event log entries.. DCdiag report, Netdiag report. Get some 
> > > > > information
> > > > > before you do something.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> > > > > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > > > Elmer St�wer
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:41 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > > > minutes (Active
> > > > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Exchange hangs every ten minutes because the AD replication 
> > > > > doesn't work
> > > > > (single domain, two DCs with exchange on one of them).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now I wonder if it is a very bad Idea to use dcpromo to 
> > change the
> > > > > server from DC to a member server.
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards
> > > > > 
> > > > > Elmer
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Elmer St�wer
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: slightly OT: ExchangeServer stops every 10 
> > > > minutes (Active
> > > > > > Direct ory issue?)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I already posted this one to W2K diskussion group. Nobody
> > > > > > replied. I think
> > > > > > it is an AD issue but it affects mainly our E2K-Server. So 
> > > > > > maybe someone
> > > > > > here has an idea. This really drives me crazy...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Situation:
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > Two 2K-AD-Servers (one of them Exchange and global catalogue
> > > > > > server). Both
> > > > > > upgraded from NT half a year ago,
> > > > > > One Site, one Domain.
> > > > > > 15 W2K and one XP clients.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Problem:
> > > > > > --------
> > > > > > The Exchange/global catalogue server stands about every 10
> > > > > > minutes for about
> > > > > > 45 seconds. No response on any click, nor it is possible to 
> > > > > work with
> > > > > > outlook 'on' that server for the 45 seconds.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > According to the event log I had a couple of issues 
> with user
> > > > > > rights in
> > > > > > local security (power user etc.) (SceCli every 8 
> minutes). I 
> > > > > > followed the
> > > > > > Microsoft guides and removed the group entries from local 
> > > > > > security policy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No I don't have any event log entries anymore, but the
> > > > > > problem persists.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > speculation of Cause/Solution?
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > I guess that there is still a problem with AD. On the second
> > > > > > server I can
> > > > > > see issues in the AD replication monitor for the first 
> > > > > > server. Objects could
> > > > > > not be replicated due to access failure.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the Exchange/global catalogue server in the registry in
> > > > > > 
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NtFrs\Paramet
> > > > > > ers\Replica
> > > > > > Sets\d5c32359-0ee1-42a9-8bac72a28682a096 I found a 
> > > wrong path for
> > > > > > ...\sysvol\domain. It points to an non existing directory.
> > > > > > So it seems that active directory is not able to 
> find active 
> > > > > > directory.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I did not want to correct it via the registry. There must be
> > > > > > a better way to
> > > > > > correct wrong path settings for the active directory 
> > container.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here is the main question
> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > > I appreciate any hint how to fix the ntfrs/AD settings on
> > > > > > that machine.
> > > > > > Where are path settings stored? Is it necessary to use DC 
> > > > > > promo to remove
> > > > > > and add the server from/to the domain or is there an easier 
> > > > > > way to fix it?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Elmer [glad that the machines are still running under these
> > > > > > circumstances]
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Elmer St�wer
> > > > > > System- und Netzwerkadministration
> > > > > > CyberConsult GmbH
> > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > www.cyberconsult.de
> > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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