If it's all one disk group, then performance will be at the least common
denominator of the various virtual disk architectures at best.

So, do you care? I dunno.  RAID5 runs about 4x slower than RAID1 on
writes in many cases, so unless there are 4x spindles available in the
disk group, you're worse off without even looking at the application.
Exchange log performance is optimized by having dedicated spindles that
don't have to re-seek for every write.  So beyond the difference in RAID
level write performance, you have an application level difference.

If they're saying that the EVA will give you the same number of I/O's
for both the logs and the databases as you would have seen for just the
logs on a standalone set of spindles, then go for it.

What's not stated is what your performance needs are.  What I/O rate
will the EVA deliver to the log volume on a sustainable basis?  Is that
enough to support your user load?  Any other question is just an
academic exercise.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rosenthal, Daniel A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, August 26, 2002 8:11 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: HP/Compaq EVA
Subject: RE: HP/Compaq EVA


As I understand it we will have exclusive access to a disk group; the
other disk group in the EVA will be used for other apps.  With that
assumption do we care about the differences between vraid1 and vraid5
when all the physical volumes will be within this disk group?  As I
understand it, splitting this group into 2 or more will reduce the
number of spindles, reduce the EVA-based fault protection and reduce the
overall performance.

Daniel Rosenthal
National Grid USA
Messaging Support
(508)389-2625
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: HP/Compaq EVA


Just so happens that I've been in an internal discussion about this and
that's what I'm being told myself.  I don't disagree with the principles
at all.  However, your performance really will be dependent upon your
application mix and how you map them to the virtual arrays.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rosenthal,
Daniel A.
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: HP/Compaq EVA


Does anyone have any experiences with HP/Compaq's Enterprise Virtual
Array in regards to Exchange 2000?  They'd like us to believe, it seems,
that the rules about transaction logs and databases being on seperate
physical volumes do not apply using this technology, because fault
tolerance is spread across so many volumes in the disk group.  Also they
would have us believe that with vraid5 for both logs and databases we'd
see no performance issues.  The big stress is that this isn't your older
brother's scsii raid anymore.

Thanks.


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