Sander - I only say this because the disk is non-removable, so it is not as
secure as an off-site tape, and I only have space for one backup.  I am
putting together a case for new hardware to go to my management, so maybe I
can slip in a few removable disks without them spotting it!  The answer I
usually get, however, is that the public come to see the fish, not the
computers!

BTW We recently were hit by complaints from PETA because we serve fish in
our restaurant (but not in tacos!)

Chris Quinn
IT Manager
Blue Planet Aquarium

-----Original Message-----
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 September 2002 09:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: urgent backup problem


Hi Chris

Just curious why you say that. I backup to different removable hard
drives Monday to Thursday and to tape on Friday (keep one tape off-site)
I find this solution not too bad and have found hard drive restores
faster and more reliable than tape restores (I detest a CRC error on the
tape...:-)).

Regards

Sander

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 September 2002 06:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: urgent backup problem

In a similar situation, I installed Exchange admin on a Win 2000 machine
with a large, almost empty, hard disk, then set up a Windows backup job
to
do an Exchange backup to the disk.  Installing the admin program makes
NT
Backup Exchange aware

Not as good as doing a tape backup, but better than nothing at all, and
easier and more reliable than copying the files manually

Chris Quinn
IT Manager
Blue Planet Aquarium 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 September 2002 16:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: urgent backup problem


hi all, 
can anyone help me with the following scenario:

sbs4.5 exch 5.5 sp4
tape drive has failed and I'm waiting for a new one to replace it.
However,
as I've had to test the tape drive to make sure that it really is
knackered
and not anything else, consequence is that there has been no decent
backup
of exchange data. i've re-read the wp on disaster and recovery planning
and
also the wp on disaster recovery which was kind of useful but as have no
tape drive or hot spare then I've decided to stop the services and copy
the
relevant files (*.edb/ *.dir/ *.log/etc) to a network drive.  However, I
don't think I've got the syntax right for xcopy (would include it but
haven't got it with me) and also I scheduled it to run at 23.00 but had
error saying did not start - not sure why yet. Should I be using xcopy
or
should I use plain copy? Has anyone got any tips or syntax for copy - my
programming skills (yes even for batch files) are virtually non
existent...
Am I missing anything? Could anyone replying cc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thank you very much Rob

Support Analyst
T.K.C. Sales Ltd.
5 Ashmead Industrial Estate
Keynsham
Bristol
BS31 1TZ
UK
Tel: 0870 870 0150 ext 302



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