You should use Mailbox Manager.  If users don't set outlook 
Options/Other Empty the Deleted Items Fold upon Exiting your
Private IS will fill up with deleted items.

Mailbox Manager is in SP4 ENG\server\support\mbmngr\setup\i386.

Works a treat here.  Once you've sorted out where all that IS
space is going, you need to set deleted items retention on:

  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm

Cheers,

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 September 2002 14:21
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Revisiting offline defrag question
> 
> 
> I dont know what mailbox manager is so I guess Im not using 
> it, also I dont
> have any deleted items retension set up.
> 
> RGDS
> Rich
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Revisiting offline defrag question
> 
> 
> The 1221 report on your ISPRIV is what counts, as that's
> the amount of whitespace in the database.
> 
> Are you running Mailbox Manager on the server?
> 
> We use it to purge old "Deleted Items" and "Journal" entries,
> and it helps a lot.  Configuring Outlook / office not to
> journal helps too, if you don't need it.
> 
> What sort of deleted item retention period do you have?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Phil
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> Phil Randal
> Network Engineer
> Herefordshire Council
> Hereford, UK 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 13 September 2002 14:05
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Revisiting offline defrag question
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > 
> >             I would like to ask everyone's suggestions, I 
> > asked about
> > offline defrag a couple days ago and many of you were very 
> > helpful.  Thanks
> > for all your great information.  I have exchange 5.5 sp4 
> > running on windows
> > nt srv sp6a and my secondary partition where the exchange 
> database is
> > located is approximately 12.9gig in total size.  I have 1.98 
> > gigs of space
> > left on this drive and it is diminishing very quickly about 
> > 200mb a week.
> > The priv.edb file is 8,791,048 in size and the pub.edb is 
> > 946,184 in size.
> > Recently I have archived alot of emails from peoples 
> > mailboxes, a few gigs
> > at least.  Also in the past other people have left our 
> > company and I deleted
> > their mailboxes which were pretty big usually close to 1 gig 
> > in size.  Since
> > I have done alot of deleting I haven't really noticed any 
> > space on this
> > secondary partition freed up.  So last night I archived about 
> > 1.5gigs of
> > email and came in today and noticed that I haven't gained any 
> > space back on
> > this partition.  In the event viewer it shows this about my 
> > online defrag
> > report.  
> > 
> > The database has 53 megabytes of free space after online 
> > defragment has
> > terminated event 1221.  
> > 
> > Event 1207: cleanup of items past retention date for Item 
> Recovery is
> > complete
> > Start: 20843 items; 445797 Kbytes
> > end: 20742 items; 445487 Kbytes
> > 
> > From the info above would anyone consider doing an offline 
> > defragment of the
> > exchange database?  I have never done this before and would 
> like your
> > suggestions, thanks very much for your time.
> > 
> > RGDS
> > Rich
> > 
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