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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I just discovered a bug in Exchange 2000 this is very elusive. I can't reproduce this *under normal cirumstances*, i.e. create a user account with mailbox, create another user account without a mailbox, create a group, mail-enabled it, add both user accounts to the group, send a test message to the group. The groups that do not work are built like this: - each customer has a separate OU - inside the customer OU there are all the user accounts and group accounts for the customer. - each customer has a global security group AllUsers@[customer.com] and every customer's user account is automatically added to the group. The group is mail-enabled. - Each customer has an account called Service (UserPrincipalName=Service@[customer.com]), Service is also a member of AllUsers@[customer.com] group. Service account does not have a mailbox. - Messages sent to AllUsers@[customer.com] get stuck in "Awaiting Directory Lookup" queue. - If I create a mailbox for Service, messages flow normally. If I delete the mailbox, messages get stuck again. We have a few thousand customers, so there are a few thousand groups called AllUsers@[customer.com], and each group has its own Service user as a member. I wonder if the categorizer runs out of steam trying to resolve the correct Service without a mailbox out of thousands. Although the UPN clearly states which one is which... -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I just discovered a bug in Exchange 2000 crap... I can't reproduce this behavior on my corporate Exchange 2000 environment. -----Original Message----- From: Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I just discovered a bug in Exchange 2000 I just hope that when I call PSS, they would be able to escalate and fix it. We rely on global security groups that need to be mail-enabled, and our hosting architecture uses a windows account that's a member of these groups but is not mail-enabled. I do not want to mail-enable this account because we then would pay Exchange license fees for it to Microsoft (each customer has an account like that). -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:Kevinm@;wlkmmas.org] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: I just discovered a bug in Exchange 2000 Good job.. And thanks for sharing.. Simple solutions are often at the bottom of the list of things to try. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, Exchange MVP, And Beyond -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-98850@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: I just discovered a bug in Exchange 2000 This has been a nagging issue for a long time. I have not been able to send mail to certain groups - messages would just get stuck in the Retry Queue "Awaiting Directory Lookup". This was also coincidental with IIS memory leak. I can't believe how simple the cause of the problem is! The groups that experience problems are mail-enabled global security groups AND some members of the group are not mail-enabled. That's all. I have been looking at all other things trying to solve the problem. I thought that for some reason there was a duplication of an SMTP address somewhere (actually that used to be another bug in earlier version of Exchange 2000) or maybe the LegacyExchangeDN was screwed up... I can't believe it did not occur to me to check all the group's members to see if any of them were somehow different. Now we do have a reason for having such mixed groups for customer provisioning methods. Andrey Fyodorov Senior Exchange Administrator iNNERHOST http://www.innerhost.com P.S. please consider this bug officially claimed by Andrey Fyodorov, the founder of the Scientific Jiggle Method and the Scientific Poking Around method. :) _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
