What is STFU?[1]

- John Q Jr.


[1] I just HAD to, as to those of you that MUST reply to this, don't!
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/575e

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: RBL's


> Mr. Hummert, I send more than 8k responses per year to various online
> forums. If you and Mr. Walsh choose to misinterpret some miniscule
> percentage of my posts as rude (some of them, like this one are
> intentionally rude) quite honestly, I don't give a rat's ass.
>
> Both of the responses Mr. Walsh chose to comment on were made to people
who
> have a long standing knowledge of my abilities and opinions. Neither of
them
> was offended by my comments, and while the comments might be a bit stark,
> (or harsh to borrow from Mr. Lefkovics' verbiage) they are backed by
> significant level of experience.
>
> You assumed that my brevity to your query equated to rudeness. Mr.
Hummert,
> you've already pointed out in this thread where assumptions get you. Now,
> please either dazzle me with your technical brilliance or STFU.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Perhaps you should read your e-mails before you send them. Just cause
> > you wrote something down and it sounds one way in your head doesn't
> > meant that it will sound the same way on the other end.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > I guess the #include humor.h module wasn't loaded for you this morning.
> > I'd suggest that the spelling remark was only rude to a subset of the
> > 32% of admins who actually could spell RBL and thus understood the barb.
> > As a journalism major, with an English minor I am quite concerned about
> > any grammatical errors I might have made in the comment you are
> > referring to. Would you please be so kind as to point out my grammar
> > errors so that I might endeavor to eliminate them from my future
> > postings?
> >
> > Now, as to your point that my statement that of the 32% of mail
> > administrators who can spell RBL many are unable to comprehend the
> > implications of it: I've made more than 8,000 replies in various public
> > forums in the last 12 months. I've read over 50,000 threads during that
> > same period. It's been a relatively slow year for me, but even if we
> > take those low water numbers back 4 years it's still a fairly
> > substantial number of administrators and posts that I've encountered.
> > Based on that vast experience with and exposure to mail administrators
> > around the world, I find it highly likely that 16% or more of mail
> > administrators don't understand fully the implications of the RBL
> > technology they are using and or advocating.
> >
> > It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. It has to do with being
> > knowledgeable about a particular issue or technology. My comments were
> > not directed at any particular individual user on this list and were
> > more accurately a diatribe against the technology than those who choose
> > to implement it. I'm sorry you chose to misinterpret my comments.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Walsh, Ric [mailto:Walshr@;national-citymortgage.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:52 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Ok your "spelling" remark was rude to all of us.
> > >
> > > You following remark despite it's poor grammar seems to say that the
> > > rest of us are dumber that you. I'd have to say that it was ALL rude.
> > >
> > > Ric Walsh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Walsh, Ric
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:32 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > >
> > > > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that.
> > > > Have
> > > you
> > > > though of taking an anger management class?
> > > >
> > > > Ric Walsh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL.
> >
> > > > > The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the
> > > > > implications of
> > > > the
> > > > > functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it
> >
> > > > > actually works or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to
> > > > > > comprehend its functionality?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > William
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > > > Scharff
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL
> > > > > > actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd
> > > > > > parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have
> >
> > > > > > to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo
> > > > > > is costing their company business.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE
> > > > > > EMS Sales Engineer
> > > > > > MessageOne
> > > > > > 512.652.4500 x-244
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Still 3rd party.  I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night and
> >
> > > > > > > the current stance on that is that they're "thinking about
> > > > > > > possibly" including RBL support in a future release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Darcy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: RBL's
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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