Wait a year or two until a few new systems are in place and that might change.
Then again, there's not enough deliniation between departmental budgets here, or in many other companies, in which chargebacks are a good thing. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: James Winzenz > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:15 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > Unfortunately . . . <VBG> > > James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ > Associate Systems Administrator > InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:33 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > Backups are done primarily for business continuance. They are not done > because someone's too stupid to think twice before deleting a 50mb > spreadsheet without making sure that its not needed anymore. > > If our job was to pick up after morons all day long, we'd > never get anything > done. > > Although, our company doesn't do chargebacks for IT at this > point, though. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw@;inubit.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: Sent Item > > > > > > Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that > > its part of the job > > description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. > > Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to > > charge them 50 Euro > > to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting > > company and the > > customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, > > I'm really > > curious how you get away with that. > > > > Allison W. > > > > On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: > > > The customer shouldn't be punished for something that > > should take 2 hours, > > > but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that > > states 24 hours > > > to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from > > offsite. $50.00 or > > > $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one > > wants to go to > > > their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a > > picture of their > > > sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's > > important, really > > > important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. > > > > > > It just gets rid of the riff-raff. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz@;inovis.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr > > or something > > > like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! > > > > > > James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ > > > Associate Systems Administrator > > > InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz@;BBandT.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that "important" > > document isn't > > > worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice@;pacbell.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to > > charge the costs of > > > the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! > > > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > > > Tech Consultant > > > hp Services > > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of > > James Winzenz > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > 1. restore from backup > > > 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the > > email to send it > > > back to him/her. > > > > > > James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ > > > Associate Systems Administrator > > > InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen@;jetproducts.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and > > the retention > > > was not set. What other options do I have to restore the > > send item? Thank > > > Everyone > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the > > Deleted Items folder. > > > No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he > > implement the Ed > > > Crowley Never Restore Method? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice@;pacbell.net] > > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > Search TechNet for "DumpsterAlwaysOn". > > > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > > > Tech Consultant > > > hp Services > > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of > Tony Nguyen > > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Sent Item > > > > > > > > > I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the > > deleted items. > > > Is there a way to get this item back from the database? > > > > > > Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > System Administrator/DBA > > > Senior Aerospace Jet Products > > > (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 > > > www.jetproducts.com > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > This email and its contents are confidential. 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